test cyp and deca *help please*

[dbro]

Okay so before you go flaming me on searching on this topic I will say that I have searched through tons of threads on here and not found the exact answer im looking for. So Im sorry if I missed it, but I do appreciate any help any you guys on here will give me as I am new to this. Anyway I am about to start my first cycle (ever) of test cyp and deca. I will be taking 500mg of test and 400 mg of deca per week, now my question is this... when exactly do I take/ inject these I have seen every 3.5 days for test 250mg each dose, but havent seen anything on the deca doseage?? also does it matter if Im working out the day I dose or not? I am also running nolva throughout and then clomid for pct.

If it matters Im 32 been working out hard for 5 yrs. 6'0 195

thanks in advance

D.

[dbro]

bump

[2jz_calgary]

dosent matter if you work out on the day you dose. You wont feel either compound for at least 3 to 4 weeks as they are long esters. Many will tell you to run only test first cycle but thats up to you. Deca dosage if you are gonna do it round 400 would be ok for first cycle as long as test is equal or higher. Youll also want clomid and nolva for pct, see how you react to the compounds and use adex on cycle if needed.

[jordann]

Was just going to suggest not to use deca in your first cycle. Keep it simple with the test @ 500mg/week.

But, it's your body and you can do what you want with it. Just a helpful suggestion.

[breakbones]

Test only bro

[sixxer]

I'm running the same cycle.

Shoot your deca once a week and your test every 3.5 days.

[Ferdinand]

I'm running the same cycle.

Shoot your deca once a week and your test every 3.5 days.

Hmmm, isn't it better to shoot 200mg of deca with the test 2 times a week in same syringe or atleast the same day as the test?

[sixxer]

Active life of nandrolone decanoate is 15 days, assuming his deca is 200mg/ml, 2ml once weekly is fine.

Personally, I don't like mixing compounds in one syringe, not for any other reason but that's just how I am.

Even though active life of cyp is about 15 days too I think, so you could boot once a week and I'd imagine levels would still remain quite stable, general consensus is to boot twice weekly.

But what you suggest is fine, booting both deca and cyp twice weekly. Don't know if it would be better, worse or as good, but I'd imagine much the same.

[dbro]

thanks guys appreciate it, I will look into the adex as well.

[hankdiesel]

1ml of test and 1ml of deca in the same syringe 2x a week.

[6ft5]

Agree split them boath or your pinning 3ml mon and 1wed. I used deca on my first cycle I got big and strong as hell. I've been bigger naturaly but not stronger. Sides for me was water gain prob 10 to 15 lbs, lean mass 10 15ibs kept almost all streight, no pct so my wanker was out commision, for 3 months. Did this before I knew how important pct was. I was lifting for at least 11yrs before I decided to do it, deca will make you strong and u probobly won't feel how much work you put your joints trew, soo keep trac of your workouts and make shure you don't lift to much to soon. Otherwise I liked the way my joints feelt quats got real easy. I like eq becuz of lower sides and slower quality gaines. And vascularity.

[6ft5]

And nova doesn't work on prolactin. So anuther AI on hand durring cycle prob adex. It will help keep the water down too.

[dbro]

Im actually going to add D-bols to the beginning of this cycle (35mg) per day as well for the jumpstart, when should I do those? like an hour before workout?

D.

[dbro]

I'm running the same cycle.

Shoot your deca once a week and your test every 3.5 days.

how are you finding it so far??

[sixxer]

Just in to week 10, weight up ~12kgs, strength really jumped up week 5-8, now it seems to be slowing down a little but I did get really sick a couple weeks ago which seems to have fcuked up my training a little.

Added Winstrol at 100mg/day beginning of week 9, which I'll run through to 14. So far it's really blasted the water retention and I'm leaning up nicely already.

Only thing I wish I did different was frontload with dbols or Test prop for the first couple weeks.

But in spite of the constant 'stick to just test for your first cycle' hype, I really am happy with Test + Deca as my first cycle.

[dbro]

Just in to week 10, weight up ~12kgs, strength really jumped up week 5-8, now it seems to be slowing down a little but I did get really sick a couple weeks ago which seems to have fcuked up my training a little.

Added Winstrol at 100mg/day beginning of week 9, which I'll run through to 14. So far it's really blasted the water retention and I'm leaning up nicely already.

Only thing I wish I did different was frontload with dbols or Test prop for the first couple weeks.

But in spite of the constant 'stick to just test for your first cycle' hype, I really am happy with Test + Deca as my first cycle.

thanks dude, thats music to my ears right now haha I'm pretty excited to get started but I want to have all my facts straight... cheers

[sixxer]

I could be wrong, but I think Deca sides can't really be treated by Nolva, so you might want to have some Aromasin and Letro on hand.

Test sides can be treated by Nolva, so have some of that too.

I'd keep Deca dosage at 250mg-400mg and Test at 500-750mg a week, probably at the lower end of that range. Being a first cycle those doses should be more than sufficient.

Also, I'd recommend Test Cyp over Enanthate.

Good luck with it, I'm sure you'll be more than happy with your cycle.

Btw, I noticed my appetite increased dramatically and for a couple weeks I was eating 4500cals plus. Some days I still do, but I notice I am fine on 3500. So just keep an eye on how much you're eating and your body comp. Keeping in mind you're going to retain a shit tonne of water, but I noticed after 2-3 weeks of 4500+ I started to gain a little too much bodyfat, which I've now rectified.

[dbro]

hmmm... yeah the more I read up on it the more I am seeing that Adex should be used during the cycle or at least kept on hand if something pops up and use the nolva / clomid for PCT. My diet will be in and around 3500-4500 cals per day through 7-8 meals, but I want to keep it as clean as possible

[hunterwells]

I could be wrong, but I think Deca sides can't really be treated by Nolva, so you might want to have some Aromasin and Letro on hand.

Test sides can be treated by Nolva, so have some of that too.

I'd keep Deca dosage at 250mg-400mg and Test at 500-750mg a week, probably at the lower end of that range. Being a first cycle those doses should be more than sufficient.

Also, I'd recommend Test Cyp over Enanthate.

Good luck with it, I'm sure you'll be more than happy with your cycle.

Btw, I noticed my appetite increased dramatically and for a couple weeks I was eating 4500cals plus. Some days I still do, but I notice I am fine on 3500. So just keep an eye on how much you're eating and your body comp. Keeping in mind you're going to retain a shit tonne of water, but I noticed after 2-3 weeks of 4500+ I started to gain a little too much bodyfat, which I've now rectified.

...deca sides are due to a rise in prolaction levels, they should be treated, preferably, with cabergoline or if u dont have any other options, bromocriptine.