new to the site!!! need advice

[nycsports2]

Wasup yall I'm new here just wanted to get some advice I'm on week 3 of test tren winny cycle which so far is great but want to know if I'm taking it all correctly or could it be more effective

Mon wed fri is half cc of tren and half cc of sust

Tues thurs sat is 1 cc of winny

I'm 61 200pds with 13 percent bf I want to get bigger up top with cutting an inch and a half off my wiastline

What you guys think???

[AlphaMaleDawg]

how old are you and how many previous cycles have you run? are you running tren -a or tren-e? are you running test-e,c, or p? how many mg is 1cc or your gear?

[nycsports2]

I'm 22 my 1st cycke was way back when I was 16 I did deca so its been awhile that cycle was great tho no sides and serious gains, I have.. And this is from the bottles I have... Tren a 100mg 10ml... Stanozolol 10ml 50mg which is my winny.... And my test is sustaplex 325mg 10ml which is a mix of 5 different tests

[nycsports2]

Cmon guys I need help!!! Would it benefit me to take larger doses or on a different schedule??? What you think????!!!!

[nycsports2]

Nothin guys??

[Drwost]

how long do you plan on running this? what are your goals for this cycle...I am new around here too.

[POPS]

not to be the bad guy but both of you guys need to post up full stats including age, weight, height, bf, cycle experience, etc before anyone here will give you any response.

For nyc, you had better get blood work done if your first cycle was at 16 to make sure that you did not do any damage to yourself. Besides, you should wait until your atleast 25 cause your natural test levels are at their highest point and you would not believe what a good diet/training/cardio regimine can do instead of starting out with aas.....

jmo guys.........educate before you medicate!!!! ( rip T )...

[nycsports2]

Hey I'm running for 6 weeks I wna get down to under 10 percent bf and just bulk my arms a bit

[mad dogs]

Hey I'm running for 6 weeks I wna get down to under 10 percent bf and just bulk my arms a bit

you dont need steroids to do this - fyi ,winstrol needs to be run every day so you will need alot more than 10ml if your going to use it,lay off the steroids and do some teading here.

[nycsports2]

All my stuff is listed in my details plus I posted them in this thread I've gotten my bloodwork done I'm good to go

[nycsports2]

Well so far its giving me the results I want.. Pretty much wanted to get stronger bigger up top and leaner faster which is happening its good so far jis wanted to know if you guys would take it a different way or could it be more effective???

[mad dogs]

ok you need more gear-

tren a 10mgs -100mgs eod = 20 days worth

winny 10mgs - 50mgs every day = 10 days worth

10ml susaples -1/2ml eod =around 5 weeks worth

you need more gear ,i fi were you i would forget the tren and winny and just do a sust cycle for 12 weeks at 1/2 every other day or 1ml x2 per week ,what you got lined up for pct ?

[nycsports2]

So just run test?? Would that give me as good of results?? I don't have anyrhing lined up yet what do you recommend? Is a pct needed for this cycle??

[mad dogs]

So just run test?? Would that give me as good of results?? I don't have anyrhing lined up yet what do you recommend? Is a pct needed for this cycle??

man you have alot to learn ,honesly you should lay of the steroids untill you know what to run/when/how to run it ect ,but i will help you out as i belive your going to do it anyway - yes a test only cycle wll yeild some very nice gains ,you dont need the tren and winny so forget about that ,also pct is very important for any cycle you will run now or in the future ,so lets see the cycle that would best suit you if you are going to use -

weeks 1-12 500msg test e or test c per week split into x2 injections (250msg monday and same thurseday)

14 days after last i njection start pct of nolvadex and clomid

clomid

week 1 -100mgs every day

week 2 -50msg evry day

week 3 - 50msg every day

weeks 4 50msg everyd ay

nolvadex

week 1-40msg evry day

weks 2- 40msg evry day

week 3-20msg everyday

week 4- 20mgs every day

you will need nolvadex on hand incase you start to see gyno on cycle ,itcy/sore/puffy nipples ,if so start at 20mgs every day and run right upto pct then pct as normal .

thats all you need to do IF YOU ARE GOING TO USE STEROIDS WHICJH IF YOUR SMART YOU WILL HOLD OF FOR A FEW YEARS AND RESERCH .

[nycsports2]

Ok thanks a lot for the advice I have a lot of friends that do it so honestly I just pretty much do the same cycle there on they don't pct but they keep there gains any reason y? Ino I have a lot to learn that's why I'm here but I'm going to def look into the cycle you recommended. Did you reco this cycle bc I'm a new user or really bc this is going to give me the best results cuz ultimately that's what I'm looking for

[mad dogs]

ok thanks a lot for the advice i have a lot of friends that do it so honestly i just pretty much do the same cycle there on they don't pct but they keep there gains any reason y? Ino i have a lot to learn that's why i'm here but i'm going to def look into the cycle you recommended. Did you reco this cycle bc i'm a new user or really bc this is going to give me the best results cuz ultimately that's what i'm looking for

your freinds most prob dont ever take the ammount of time off that is needed for good recovery ,you will find that alot of guys will do one cycle then have amonth off do another ect ect with no pct ,now if they were to do it the correect way and do time on+ time off while useing no pct you will find that they would lose alotof there gains ,there never really off steroids so they dont have a chance to lose the gains ,this is why steroids are getting such a bad name becasue this is abuseing steroids and thats were one will start to see problems and side effects.

[nycsports2]

Actually they only cycle once per year I duno even I kept all of mine when I was young I went from bench press 275 to 340 in a month on deca n kept all of it without pct they do tren and keep all results

[no1tou]

Actually they only cycle once per year I duno even I kept all of mine when I was young I went from bench press 275 to 340 in a month on deca n kept all of it without pct they do tren and keep all results

No offence but this has bullshit written all over it.

[nycsports2]

I promise I'm 100 percent serious when I say this I have at least 5 of my boys that do it and when they finish they keep all results no pct no sides and usuallu 1 or 2 cycles max but there also all 24 and under I duno if that makes a difference???

[ghettoboyd]

I promise I'm 100 percent serious when I say this I have at least 5 of my boys that do it and when they finish they keep all results no pct no sides and usuallu 1 or 2 cycles max but there also all 24 and under I duno if that makes a difference???

whats really the unknown here is the dammage that will eventually surface maybee years from now from cycleing irresponsibly.....your friends might be fine now but id be curious how thay make out later in life with labido,ED possible the ability to have children....i know its not what you young dudes worry about now but you will all find out down the road im shure...

[no1tou]

I promise I'm 100 percent serious when I say this I have at least 5 of my boys that do it and when they finish they keep all results no pct no sides and usuallu 1 or 2 cycles max but there also all 24 and under I duno if that makes a difference???

Ok hear is my problem with what your saying. Even if you do a proper pct it is pretty much impossible to keep all the gains. As for sides just because you don't feel anything bad doesnt mean you guys havent stunted your growth or set yourself up for ed, low natural test, and other problems in the future.

Some people like yourself end up having problems later on in life and never realize they were caused by the poor choices they made in the past.

Either way if your going to cycle regardless then do yourself a favor and (here it comes) do some research.

Edit: took me too long to write. Ghettoboyd pretty much said it.

[nycsports2]

Yep again that's y I'm here ino I have a lot to learn I am obviously gonna do it anyway but do you agree with the previous poster a test only cycle would be better for my gains?

[AlphaMaleDawg]

do a test only cycle man. save the tren for a future cycle. you will be glad you did

[no1tou]

Yep again that's y I'm here ino I have a lot to learn I am obviously gonna do it anyway but do you agree with the previous poster a test only cycle would be better for my gains?

Yup but make sure you have your pct down before hand.

This is a simple yet effective pct for test only.

Start 14 days after last pin.
Clomid- 100mg ed for the first week then 50mg ed for the following 3 weeks.
Nolvadex - 40mg ed for the first week then 20mg ed for the following 3 weeks.

[nycsports2]

I can pin the pct with 1 shot correct?

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I can pin the pct with 1 shot correct?

pct is in either pill or liquid form man. No need to inject with those

[D_iamond]

wow i can not believe what i am hearing this is crazy were do you find these guys... people cant spend 1 hour reading about proper steroid use COME ON this stuff effects your whole life and they just want everyone else to give them all the answers WTF!!!!

[nycsports2]

U cud be like alphamaledog n be helpful or jis stfu n not post dude thanks to the dudes who were hekpful in this thread I really appreciate the info all I can get would be great

[Black]

I have no problem educating. The thing is, you need to educate yourself BEFORE starting to use anabolic /androgenic steroids . You don't wait to learn after you started cycling. You need to have everything in order beforehand. Then you need to have all supplies you'll need before you start (Enough steroids for entire length of cycle, needles/pins and PCT).

[nycsports2]

Any cycle you would suggest?

[Black]

Any cycle you would suggest?

Since you already started, here is the cycle I recommend?

Weeks 1-4 Nolvadex 40mg/ED for 1st week, 20mg a day for last 3 weeks

Weeks 1-4 Clomid 100mg/ED for 1st week, 50mg/ED for last 3 weeks

Run that cycle and then do some research before your next cycle, which should be approx. 1 year away.

[nycsports2]

Ok thanks for the info