Dbol Usage

[vadimg88]

Hi,

I was wondering about the Dbol steroid. I am 22 year old and i have been working out for a few years now. I never took anything yet. I was wondering about the Dbol steroid and the usage. I know all about cycles and i have been reading a lot. what is the preferred amount to take for a person doing his first cycle with Dbol? I have 200 tabs not 400 as i read people taking. Will the cycle of 200 can make liver problems on other side effects such as breasts enlargement? Do i need to take any kind of liver cleaning stuff and/or anti estrogen supplements when cycling with Dbol at maximum 200 tabs? What is the best way to cycle when you have 200 tabs for a person who never cycled before? Will it poses any risk taking more then 50mg a day of Dbol? Should i take up to 50mg a day then start the down cycle?

I asking since i want to have opinions from people who know and/or took this steroid.

Thanks.

[InknSteel]

In all honesty bro it doesn't look like you've done any research at all. If you did you would know that dbol only cycles are not good for first cycles or any cycles at all (some people will agrue this point but around here they are in the minority) also the recommended age to start using aas is around 24-25. Get your diet in check, refine your workout routine and research aas more thoroughly during the next few years then reevaluate this decision. also post up your stats

Age
height
weight
BF%
previous cycle(s)
Diet
Training
PCT Knowledge

[vadimg88]

I am aware that Dbol is used as a kick start for a cycle, And used with long acting injectables such as deca. My question was if using a cycle of 200 tabs can do some serious damage for a person who never took steroids and is 22 years old.

[InknSteel]

yea well typically dbol is used to kickstart a cycle while on a long ester like test ent. the amount of tabs you have is meaningless without knowing the mg of the tabs, how much you would like to do and how long you plan on doing it for. Again post up your stats or all your going to get is vague responses, and yes 22 is too young to cycle I would hold off ATLEAST another year+. 24-25 is recommended but people do cycle younger, too much of a risk imo though.

[vadimg88]

Age 22
height 5'9
weight 195-200 LBS
BF% 8-10
previous cycle(s) - none
Diet - Currently none but i will be doing if i am gonna start a cycle.
Training - 4/5 Times a week every two days i have a day off

The tabs are 5mg each. I am not saying i am gonna take it, just wondering about it and how will my body will respond (generally speaking).

[HawaiianPride.]

Impossible to tell how YOUR body will respond. Cosign with what's already been said.

Test should always be the base of a cycle IMO, and Dbol comliments test really well.

Now, you said your not a diet, but you'll get on one when you cycle. This is rubbish. Your obviously on some type of diet. Probably a shitty one. Get your diet straightened out before AAS. Don't wait until your on steroids.

Typically for a first time user begin with 30mg PD, one tablet in the morning and pre workout or evening. 4-6 week duration and YES liver support is needed. NAC, UDCA, Liver Longer, Liver Juice, ect ect.

[InknSteel]

Like HawaiianPride said, noone knows what sides they will get from aas until they actually start. You def want to run some sort of liver support since orals have high liver toxicity. Also make sure to drink a ton of water (1-2 gal a day) As for dosing you would want to take 30-40mg everyday for 4-6 weeks. Dbol has a short half-life so you would want to take them every 4-5 hours at the same time everyday to keep blood levels even. Again like HawaiianPride said you would want to run a test base at around 500mg a week for 12 weeks (250mg every 3.5 days). Good to see your not jumping right into it, I would highly recommend you getting your diet nice and clean and steady first and give your body time before jumping in. You would be surprised of how good you can gain naturally with proper diet and training. Waiting does suck but you will benefit if you just wait it out till you are 24-25 before you start cycling. GL bro hope you make the right choice!

[vadimg88]

Thanks for those answers, Makes me think before i do any of those cycles.

About the liver support, Any specific recommendations? How often should i take that? At the start/end of the cycle? in between?

I am not sure i got the test base understood very well. I was told that the Dbol cycle should be: starting of 15mg for the first week then adding 5mg-10mg each day for each week. So eventually it will be like a Pyramid

week 1 15mg a day
week 2 20mg a day
week 3 25mg a day
week 4 30mg a day
week 5 25mg a day
week 6 20mg a day

I know this routine used by a lot of cycles. I was wondering if doing that is recommended in my situation? 500mg a week for 12 weeks, That's why more then i expected to take. Does that even make sense? 1,200 5mg tabs for 12 weeks?

@InknSteel You said 30-40mg a day for 4-6 weeks, That sounds a lot more reasonable. No need to start from a smaller amount a day then increase the dosage every week, Just start from about 30mg and keep that for 4-6 weeks. No need to lower the dosage amount near the end of the cycle?

Thanks again.

[HawaiianPride.]

Stay at a stable dose. Liv52 is my support of choice.

[cobra305]

Not 12 weeks of dbol. twelve weeks of test. You know nothing about aas yet you state you know all about cycling. Do you have a pct? Dp you evem know what that means? If you did not have a diet prior to use you will not have one magically appear. How can you (hawaiinpride) give this dude advice with a clear concious? he has no idea wtf he is doing. Do you?

[HawaiianPride.]

Not 12 weeks of dbol. twelve weeks of test. You know nothing about aas yet you state you know all about cycling. Do you have a pct? Dp you evem know what that means? If you did not have a diet prior to use you will not have one magically appear. How can you (hawaiinpride) give this dude advice with a clear concious? he has no idea wtf he is doing. Do you?

I woudn't jump on a forum board and hand out advice on drugs without having gone threw it myself. Yes I do have experience with AAS and I have experience with all the anabolics he has mentioned. I guarantee this person will be popping these pills left and right without taking any regard to what people are saying so he's better off having his questions answered instead of simply posting "more research" like most people do.

[vadimg88]

Thanks HawaiianPride. I already said, I am not talking anything yet. I just want to know stuff before i do and sometimes asking questions and getting them answered is a lot more helpful and understandable then reading all bunch of long articles and guides.

Another thing about the Liver support, What is the best way of consuming it when using Dbol? at the beginning of the cycle, at the end or in between?

Should the cycle start from a low dosage of 20mg a day for the first week then increase the dosage per day every week? or just use 30mg a day for all 4-6 weeks?

When using Dbol with the dosages listed above, Should i take some Nolvadex or something similar against what so called 'Gynocomastia' when cycling Dbol? If so how should that be taken (start, in between, end) and in what dosages?

Thanks again.