Test Prop & Tbol - with pics

[New2Anabolic]

Test Prop 100mg eod
Tbol 60mg pd

I am in my 5th week of Tbol.
- Is it too late to make it a REAL cycle? (by adding in the Propionate)

My pic of me

[Bossman]

I don't understand, you're not running the prop now?

What are you stats? Not much of a base. How long have you been training?

[New2Anabolic]

No I originaly planned on it just being a weak tbol only cycle
(no anger/emotional issues that may effect my new job // prevent hair loss // acne // etc)

But I have changed my mind and I wonder if it is okay to bring in a TEST BASE.. now!
Test Prop, that is. 6 weeks.

Been training since 2003-4.
Check my profile for cycle history.

[D_iamond]

yes add it in man you need it!! it will only help just use the tbol like a kickstart and keep goin on the test for a full 8-10 weeks man MO

[New2Anabolic]

Was planning on 6 weeks.
With my shitty diet... I am getting a mini bloat from the Tbol.. BLAH!
Hope it's not too late to turn it around..?? (Diet starts 2mor)

(Had family over I've not seen in years, someone had a kid, a couple birthdays - etc. Been thru the most partie in my entire life. Time to get my head on straight, unless I've fkd myself = and can't turn on a diet at this point??)

[marcus300]

If your diet is weak I would forget about AAS, diet needs to be estabolished before AAS use, sounds like your wasting your time IMHO.

[New2Anabolic]

I seriously doubt that you have never messed up a cycle before (but I agree, very stupid of me but I AM human!!). I fkd my diet. And I want to recoup.

I'm already on Tbol @ 60mg with a refocused diet starting tomorrow.
I was wondering if Prop would casue any harm if brought in at this time.

[Bossman]

I seriously doubt that you have never messed up a cycle before (but I agree, very stupid of me but I AM human!!). I fkd my diet. And I want to recoup.

I'm already on Tbol @ 60mg with a refocused diet starting tomorrow.
I was wondering if Prop would casue any harm if brought in at this time.

That's why you do your research first. I doubt Marcus has every fvcked up a cycle. I know I haven't.

How old are you? Looking at your pic, I would advise you put AAS aside for a year or two to get your training and diet in order. You have a very poor base.

[Tyler694]

A few slip ups due to holidays, birthdays, etc doesn't necessarily mean his diet isn't good though..

I had a few slip ups the past week (daughters bday, easter meal with family, anniversary with wife) that completely ****ed off the whole week. Doesn't mean my diet before and after that week aren't good though. Nor does it mean I should quit my cycle. Ya know?

[Tyler694]

A few slip ups due to holidays, birthdays, etc doesn't necessarily mean his diet isn't good though..

I had a few slip ups the past week (daughters bday, easter meal with family, anniversary with wife) that completely f*cked off the whole week. Eating cake and cookies with my three year old little girl completely made her day on her birthday because she knows I NEVER eat sweets and the anniversary day was unavoidable. All of this doesn't mean my diet before and after that week aren't good though. Nor does it mean I should quit my cycle. Ya know?

[Bossman]

A few slip ups due to holidays, birthdays, etc doesn't necessarily mean his diet isn't good though..

I had a few slip ups the past week (daughters bday, easter meal with family, anniversary with wife) that completely f*cked off the whole week. Eating cake and cookies with my three year old little girl completely made her day on her birthday because she knows I NEVER eat sweets and the anniversary day was unavoidable. All of this doesn't mean my diet before and after that week aren't good though. Nor does it mean I should quit my cycle. Ya know?

Who the hell are you? Are you the OP on another screen name?

[Tyler694]

Who the hell are you? Are you the OP on another screen name?

Lol, no. If you don't believe me, PM and I'll prove it.



EDIT: I didn't mean to offend or take sides at all. Just stating that I had a crappy diet week, but my diet before and after is still good..

[New2Anabolic]

That's why you do your research first. I doubt Marcus has every fvcked up a cycle. I know I haven't.

How old are you? Looking at your pic, I would advise you put AAS aside for a year or two to get your training and diet in order. You have a very poor base.

I'm glad you have more dedication than I do.

I wasn't able to not snack, especially with Tbol pushing my snacking cravings.

With regard to my research, I am asking questions now - which you aren't answering. Looking at YOUR picture..
it would seem that you may know those answers I am inquiring about!! Care to share?

Edit: Thanks Tyler. They are right, if you are going 'far enough' as to use gear - then your diet should be in check. I guess I lost control of mine... but the questions...remain!!!
- I will be going hard starting 2mor, as I said

[Tyler694]

I agree diet HAS to be in check, I was just stating a "slip up" won't be the downfall or your cycle, imo anyways.

[Bossman]

I'm glad you have more dedication than I do.

I wasn't able to not snack, especially with Tbol pushing my snacking cravings.

With regard to my research, I am asking questions now - which you aren't answering. Looking at YOUR picture..
it would seem that you may know those answers I am inquiring about!! Care to share?

Edit: Thanks Tyler. They are right, if you are going 'far enough' as to use gear - then your diet should be in check. I guess I lost control of mine... but the questions...remain!!!
- I will be going hard starting 2mor, as I said

Seriously, looking at your pic, you don't have the base to be using steroids. IF you're serious about building a decent physique you need to spend more time researching the very basics which are diet and training (save AAS for later, you're not ready). You need to have those in order first. If you had them in order, your pic would show it and it doesn't.

Im not trying to be a dick just stating facts.

[New2Anabolic]

pfffft.. that is an alright picture!
def not ripped, but during holidays in Australia!!
sucha hater. haha

So what I am reading is: "no, when you are 5 weeks into Tbol, you cannot add in a Test base."

Edit: 1 year clean in that shot as well..

[thegodfather]

pfffft.. that is an alright picture!
def not ripped, but during holidays in Australia!!
sucha hater. haha

So what I am reading is: "no, when you are 5 weeks into Tbol, you cannot add in a Test base."

Edit: 1 year clean in that shot as well..

You're trying to justify things as you go along, that's fine, its human nature. But none the less, Marcus and CGB have years and years of EXPERIENCE between them, and they have the physiques that you are trying to attain. Therefore, it would behoove you to be a little more humble, and take their advice for what its worth. No need to become defensive, they are simply pointing out that you are not ready for AAS, and that you should spend a lot more time worrying about what food you are eating, rather than what compounds you are putting into your body.

So I think the advice to take away from what they are saying, is stop the Turinabol, and start a PCT. Save your Test Prop for when you are ready to cycle, and visit the diet forum to make sure you have a sufficient caloric intake and macronutrient breakdown so that your able to get the results you're seeking.

[Black]

So what I am reading is: "no, when you are 5 weeks into Tbol, you cannot add in a Test base."

Edit: 1 year clean in that shot as well..

Honestly, I don't know what you are reading, but I know you're not reading anyones advice.

Also, what does 1 year clean mean?

[New2Anabolic]

Honestly, I don't know what you are reading, but I know you're not reading anyones advice.

Also, what does 1 year clean mean?

Wasn't on/no gear for a year. Is all that means.
And no one was responding to my OP, so I was more stearing people towards answering the question, rather than saying "stop".

Though I am considering running Tbol for 8 weeks, and then PCT. That is, if I will not receive gains from running Prop at this time, being 5 weeks into Tbol @ 60mg p/d.

[Bossman]

pfffft.. that is an alright picture!
def not ripped, but during holidays in Australia!!
sucha hater. haha

So what I am reading is: "no, when you are 5 weeks into Tbol, you cannot add in a Test base."

Edit: 1 year clean in that shot as well..

You can take anything that you choose. My take on your pic is, you have minimal development. Not trying to be a dick, just stating fact. I believe that you should build a strong natural base before considering steroids. Not everyone does. But that's what I advise.

You live in Australia, so you're breaking the law ( lot of people are), risking your health and spending money when you really have no business using steroids IMO.

Ive asked more then once, how old are you?

[Black]

Wasn't on/no gear for a year. Is all that means.
And no one was responding to my OP, so I was more stearing people towards answering the question, rather than saying "stop".

So you've cycled before? I was cutting you a break thinking that this was your first time using AAS.

Again, I'm not being mean, but if you've cycled before and that's what you look like, then you definitely have a long way to go.

I have a feeling that your diet is so-so and you're expecting the steroids to do all the work. Sorry man, doesn't work that way. You'll just get a lighter wallet instead.

[New2Anabolic]

You can take anything that you choose. My take on your pic is, you have minimal development. Not trying to be a dick, just stating fact. I believe that you should build a strong natural base before considering steroids. Not everyone does. But that's what I advise.

You live in Australia, so you're breaking the law ( lot of people are), risking your health and spending money when you really have no business using steroids IMO.

Ive asked more then once, how old are you?

I must have missed that question. Or your presented it in a derogitory way which made me dismiss it.

I am 25 y/o.
I do not live in Australia, you don't read properly. I was there for a short stint, vacation of sorts.
I am stopping this cycle when I finish my pills. Prob 6 weeks. Then I will go off for equal time, not including PCT. (Nolva)

I will then go back to a Test E base, and start it with Tbol.

[Bossman]

Yep, I read it wrong, holiday in Australia. It's illegal there as it is in the states too, that was my point.

When people ask for your stats, that includes age (2nd post). I asked again in post 8 and post 20.

Once again, you're not ready for steroids. You have no base, a poor diet and I would speculate your training could use some work too. You can do what ever you choose, this is just my opinion. Often times people ask for advise, but they get offended by constructive criticism.

I base my opinion on your statements of your own opinion of your "shitty" diet and the fact that you've been training since 2003 and actually post that pic. What kind of training?

This picture is of my arm (18-1/2") before I started to use AAS. I had reached a plateau after many years of lifting. In this age of "instant gratification" some just don't have the dedication to stick it out.

[New2Anabolic]

I may be at a low point in my training & diet. So you are free to speculate, but the information you are basing your speculation off of is very limited. Especially one picture, of a time when I'm not at home following a diet & training regimine - just an every day shot.

In response to your "speculation'; here was me when I followed my diet, and trained rigorously.

[scotimus]

so follow your diet, and train rigorously again and youll look like that.

[Bossman]

I may be at a low point in my training & diet. So you are free to speculate, but the information you are basing your speculation off of is very limited. Especially one picture, of a time when I'm not at home following a diet & training regimine - just an every day shot.

In response to your "speculation'; here was me when I followed my diet, and trained rigorously.

LOL, that's you on cycle???

[c-Z]

IS it me or do they look like 2 diff people?

All i know is... boy you need to clean yer room.....

[D7M]

IS it me or do they look like 2 diff people?

tough to tell, but yah, that's what I thought at first as well...

[stewiessexyparties]

IS it me or do they look like 2 diff people?

All i know is... boy you need to clean yer room.....

Maybe thats what he meant by the one year clean?

[briancb1]

So many egotistical douche-bags on this board anymore.

His question: Is it to late too add Test Prop?

One of many correct responses would be:
How long do you intend to use Test P for? If you are ending your AAS cycle in a week - yes. If you are going to use AAS for a min. 4+ more weeks - no. Thats my opinion (which he asked for) in regards to if ITS TOO LATE.

Use whatever you want, its your body - I dont care what personal choices you make. If you want my personal opinion if you should use or what you should use, thats a different post.

This board has it in every other thread by the same people. All that other personal bullshyt you guys put in there was not asked for - the post was done. Keep your two cents in your pocket. Send him a PM if you want to take it another direction, and check your egos at the door.

[gonzo6183]

Are you serious??? you have been on this site for 4 years and with over 700 posts and that is the cycle you run, damn...

[New2Anabolic]

LOL, that's you on cycle???

That is me NOT on cycle.

Thanks Briancb.


And Gonzo - I ran this pussi cycle because I started a new job, and did not want to undergo the potential for emotional issues ("Roid Rage") as I do get a bit edgy/touchy while being on.
I am also very suseptable to hair loss and back'ne (acne on the back) so I thought I could just leave all of the negative elements at the door, and pick up 5pds lbm.

[Bossman]

So many egotistical douche-bags on this board anymore.

His question: Is it to late too add Test Prop?

One of many correct responses would be:
How long do you intend to use Test P for? If you are ending your AAS cycle in a week - yes. If you are going to use AAS for a min. 4+ more weeks - no. Thats my opinion (which he asked for) in regards to if ITS TOO LATE.

Use whatever you want, its your body - I dont care what personal choices you make. If you want my personal opinion if you should use or what you should use, thats a different post.

This board has it in every other thread by the same people. All that other personal bullshyt you guys put in there was not asked for - the post was done. Keep your two cents in your pocket. Send him a PM if you want to take it another direction, and check your egos at the door.

You've got it completely wrong.

The first correct response was asking his stats and for more info as the OP's first post was vague. After learning more about the OP's lack of discipline, the correct advise was pointing him to the diet forum by Marcus. Those things should be taken into consideration before dispensing cycling direction. And, why would you PM the OP instead of giving him advise in his own thread. He could of PM'd anyone but instead wanted his question addressed in an open forum.

The OP doesn't want to hear the advise though does he?

[New2Anabolic]

Not from you, anymore.
Troll.

[New2Anabolic]

So many egotistical douche-bags on this board anymore.

His question: Is it to late too add Test Prop?

All that other personal bullshyt you guys put in there was not asked for - the post was done. Keep your two cents in your pocket. Send him a PM if you want to take it another direction, and check your egos at the door.

That is why he suggest sending a PM.
It's like you pick and choose what you want to read.

[smiler]

call me whatever you like. and i appologize in advance but... that is NOT the same dude in those pics both NOT ON cycle period! stop fooling yourself bro. these guys are just trying to help you. second pic = not you

[Bossman]

LOL, he's a beast!! And he doesn't want advise if it's not what he wants to hear.

[Black]

That is why he suggest sending a PM.
It's like you pick and choose what you want to read.

Ok, so agreeing with the OP goes in the thread and any other opinions (relating to the subject) going in PMs? Got it, thanks.

[jordann]

That is me NOT on cycle.

Thanks Briancb.


And Gonzo - I ran this pussi cycle because I started a new job, and did not want to undergo the potential for emotional issues ("Roid Rage") as I do get a bit edgy/touchy while being on.
I am also very suseptable to hair loss and back'ne (acne on the back) so I thought I could just leave all of the negative elements at the door, and pick up 5pds lbm.

If it's just a "*****" cycle as you state, why even bother? Why not wait until you're settled into your new job then start a cycle? You won't be gaining those 5 pounds if you're not eating right. Also, why settle for 5 pounds? Looking to add 1/4 inch on those arms?

No diet = no success. Get on track or get off gear.

[Smallnaturalbuilder]

So many egotistical douche-bags on this board anymore.

His question: Is it to late too add Test Prop?

One of many correct responses would be:
How long do you intend to use Test P for? If you are ending your AAS cycle in a week - yes. If you are going to use AAS for a min. 4+ more weeks - no. Thats my opinion (which he asked for) in regards to if ITS TOO LATE.

Use whatever you want, its your body - I dont care what personal choices you make. If you want my personal opinion if you should use or what you should use, thats a different post.

This board has it in every other thread by the same people. All that other personal bullshyt you guys put in there was not asked for - the post was done. Keep your two cents in your pocket. Send him a PM if you want to take it another direction, and check your egos at the door.

Very intelligent and objective post.