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    gyno advice? please help

    Im currently running Test E 500mg/wk 1-10 and anavar 50mg/day week 5-12 and arimidex .25mg every other day. PCT is 40/40/20/20 Nolvadex. Im in week 7, and im noticing tiny lumps underneath my right nipple, and my left side is devolping something now also but not as bad. Should i up the arimidex dosage? Use nolvadex while on cycle to prevent further damage? Will pct heal this?
    All help is appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymrat 1313 View Post
    Im currently running Test E 500mg/wk 1-10 and anavar 50mg/day week 5-12 and arimidex .25mg every other day. PCT is 40/40/20/20 Nolvadex. Im in week 7, and im noticing tiny lumps underneath my right nipple, and my left side is devolping something now also but not as bad. Should i up the arimidex dosage? Use nolvadex while on cycle to prevent further damage? Will pct heal this?
    All help is appreciated.
    try some letro.

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    should i run it after cycle/pct or during?

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    Dont run letro. Up the adex and see how that works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymrat 1313 View Post
    Im currently running Test E 500mg/wk 1-10 and anavar 50mg/day week 5-12 and arimidex .25mg every other day. PCT is 40/40/20/20 Nolvadex. Im in week 7, and im noticing tiny lumps underneath my right nipple, and my left side is devolping something now also but not as bad.

    Should i up the arimidex dosage?
    Some people have reported it helping, but I wouldn’t put much stock into that because technically speaking there's a cap on the amount of estro that can be inhibited by a given drug, and Adex’s limit is comparatively low. Clinically speaking, once the serum levels of any drug reach their peak, that's all she wrote, i.e. you won’t get more/greater/better results by increasing the dosage.

    Use nolvadex while on cycle to prevent further damage?
    Thats a good idea at this point, unless you want to quickly purchase some Letro.

    Will pct heal this?
    Possibly, but it’s more sensible to begin therapy at the onset of gyno, not weeks later.

    All help is appreciated.
    So the best move is begin a serious therapy (not more Adex) as soon as possible.
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    Thanks for the help. I'm going to try running the Adex at .50mg eod because I'm only running it .25 eod which is relatively low. If that doesn't work then I will use nolvadex for the rest of my cycle instead. If nolvadex becomes necessary should I run it without the Adex or with? Would it be a bad thing if I ran the nolvadex for a long time? (last 4 weeks of cycle and through pct) Ive read not to use letro while on cycle, I was thinking of using it after my pct if I still have a problem. What are your thoughts on this?

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    Were your nips sore before you felt the lump. I'm using Arimidex on cycle now for first time and was also doing .25 eod but bumped it to .50 when the sore nips appeared. I'm new also so I wont offer advice but I do know from reading that guys will use Nolva during a cycle to relieve Gyno, but for days only, not weeks like PCT. Best of luck. My buddy just had same thing(Small Lump, very sensitive) and had to go off a stupid 120mg a day winny only cycle???? and ran 3 weeks of clomid 50mg ed and hes all good now.

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    Nolvadex works wonders for me as far as gyno goes......

    I would run 40mg's/day to start and then drop to 20mg's/day - i'd also run the adex .25mg/ED.....

    This is just what I know works for me.....

    ~Haz~

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    They were sore but only when i touch it, no noticeable feeling when i didn't feel it. Did upping it to .50 help? I thought that nolvadex on cycle shouldn't be used for a prolonged period, but wanted to see what people have to say. I was thinking of adding Clomid to my PCT, which as of right now, will be 40/40/20/20 Nolvadex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard View Post
    Nolvadex works wonders for me as far as gyno goes......

    I would run 40mg's/day to start and then drop to 20mg's/day - i'd also run the adex .25mg/ED.....

    This is just what I know works for me.....

    ~Haz~
    Do you have experience with using Nolva on cycle? How did you dose it/for how long?

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    Thanks Hazard, im gonna switch to .25 ED also, easier that way also. Mine are just sore to touch also, I think any cycle is going to make em a little sore but this is my first cycle of Test Prop and Test E and they been a tad sore to the touch, not crazy sore, just enough tom notice when taking off a shirt or something. Hazard, you run Nolva your entire cycle or only when you feel some gyno?

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    I run mine until the symptoms go away..... and continue the higher dosage of adex. I try not to run nolva the whole cycle.....

    ~Haz~

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    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymrat 1313 View Post
    Thanks for the help. I'm going to try running the Adex at .50mg eod because I'm only running it .25 eod which is relatively low. If that doesn't work then I will use nolvadex for the rest of my cycle instead. If nolvadex becomes necessary should I run it without the Adex or with? Would it be a bad thing if I ran the nolvadex for a long time? (last 4 weeks of cycle and through pct) Ive read not to use letro while on cycle, I was thinking of using it after my pct if I still have a problem. What are your thoughts on this?
    Like I said earlier you need to run a higher amount of adex, .25eod is the lowest dose BB's use. Give it 2 weeks and if that dosent help run Nolva asap. Exemestane (Aromasin) is the best ai to run On cycle.

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    Also since estro is highest at night, I take my Arimidex before bed. Read that somewhere awhile back.

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    Gym Rat,

    Regarding your PM and plan, it sounds reasonable.

    A couple of myth busting bullet points about what’s been said recently:

    • Increasing Adex, just adds more. It’s synonymous to increasing soap, water or wiping when washing a car…neither gets it any cleaner when all are already optimized.
    • Letro is the best on cycle gyno combatant.
    • Nolva is the best off cycle combatant.
    • Choose Nolva over Aromasin – As stated, Mase is too strong for optimal cycle results. Although not preferable, at least SERMs don’t reduce estrogen's affects on anabolism, they just block receptor hazardous sites.
    • I don’t recall Adex’s half-life, but it’s certainly greater than half a day, thus taking it prior to bed during daily administration is wholly unnecessary.
    • Any change in nipples (itching, sensitivity, shirt brushing, puffiness, pain, nodule, lump, etc.) when on aas is likely a gyno precursor and sometimes it can be EXTREMELY subtle (you may just notice them more). But always take action.

    Best to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magic32 View Post
    Gym Rat,

    Regarding your PM and plan, it sounds reasonable.

    A couple of myth busting bullet points about what’s been said recently:

    • Increasing Adex, just adds more. It’s synonymous to increasing soap, water or wiping when washing a car…neither gets it any cleaner when all are already optimized.
    • Letro is the best on cycle gyno combatant.
    • Nolva is the best off cycle combatant.
    • Choose Nolva over Aromasin – As stated, Mase is too strong for optimal cycle results. Although not preferable, at least SERMs don’t reduce estrogen's affects on anabolism, they just block receptor hazardous sites.
    • I don’t recall Adex’s half-life, but it’s certainly greater than half a day, thus taking it prior to bed during daily administration is wholly unnecessary.
    • Any change in nipples (itching, sensitivity, shirt brushing, puffiness, pain, nodule, lump, etc.) when on aas is likely a gyno precursor and sometimes it can be EXTREMELY subtle (you may just notice them more). But always take action.

    Best to you.
    Thanks alot Magic. Your help is appreciated.

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    I still prefer to run liquid exemestane during a cycle, and save the nolva for pct. Letro is definitely the best if you already have signs of gyno.

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