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    I need some big time help

    Hi guys. I'm week 2 in to my cycle of test prop and winny 1cc 100mg eod. Using glut and legs to inject. The test p is killing me this is my first cycle with it and i have never had so much pain from a shot. does this stuff always hurt this bad? Is there anything i can do so the test p does not hurt so much. it does not hurt much going in its the day after it feels like i got hit will 100mph baseball. when i take the winny it does not hurt at all
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    Hi guys. I'm week 2 in to my cycle of test prop and winny 1cc 100mg eod. Using glut and legs to inject. The test p is killing me this is my first cycle with it and i have never had so much pain from a shot. does this stuff always hurt this bad? Is there anything i can do so the test p does not hurt so much. it does not hurt much going in its the day after it feels like i got hit will 100mph baseball. when i take the winny it does not hurt at all]

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    I have taken several cycles utilizing prop, and I've never incurred any terrible pain... Shouldn't be the prop...

    couple things...
    - How VALID is your prop? you know its the real deal?

    - What size/guage needle are you using?

    - also, Try injecting prop in a little slower, in my expeirience, the faster i inject, the more pain will follow...

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    ^^^follow what BigRob says.i usually have pain from injecting too fast. is this ur first cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stang View Post
    Hi guys. I'm week 2 in to my cycle of test prop and winny 1cc 100mg eod. Using glut and legs to inject. The test p is killing me this is my first cycle with it and i have never had so much pain from a shot. does this stuff always hurt this bad? Is there anything i can do so the test p does not hurt so much. it does not hurt much going in its the day after it feels like i got hit will 100mph baseball. when i take the winny it does not hurt at all
    my first cycle included test p. i almost quit because of the pain and stiffness, i was extremely creepled from it. i had pain and redness near the injected area for about 4 weeks. and after that everything went back to normal. worming the gear and syringe to higher temperature helped a lot too. i read that this is happening because of the oil that is crystallizing in the muscle and the absorption is not done properly. at this point the body is trying to reject and that explains the redness (allergic reaction) and pain.
    you'll be fain.....

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    Doesn't grapeseed oil make it nearly painless? But you can't change oils can you?

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    I'm on Test. Prop and it hurts like hell AFTER the shots. I think injection technique has a lot to do with it also, because today's shot was the most painful and I think it was because of bad pulse. Of course, this is just an opinion, but I think other people have said Test. Prop hurts.

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    i am using prop right now and the injections are nearly painless, i do heat up the oil in the syringe and im mixing Tren A with the prop... Not all Prop will hurt, but you never mentioned if this is your first ever cycle? if it is you can expect to be in pain for the first few shots..... whatever gear you are using.

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    thanks for the info. Yes this is my first cycle with test prop. i'm using 22ga pin. does not hurt till the next day and it's like a huge lump hard under the skin. Do you think warming it might help out? I have never had pain like this from any shot in my life.

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    anyone know of anything esle i should try to make the pain less? I always herd winny hurts bad also but never ever had pain with winny like the pain with this test prop i'm thinking about throwing it away and starting a new cycle.

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    I love prop. even so I still get the pain related to prop. I have gotten used to it from length of use but it still stings some times. I will cut it with some b-12 if it is late in my cycle. If t is early in my cycle I will cut it with some cypionate. works like a charm
    another more drastic measure I have used is to dump all the prop I have into a beaker and cook it. just like a wine reduction sauce cook the BA out if it. not too long because you want some BA but I will cook for an half and hour or 45 min
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    I have been using 22g or 23g pins do you think warming it might work? I feels hard under the shin where i stuck my self like i lump under the skin. i will try one more shot and go really slow. i can't keep dealing with this type of pain i don't even feel like working out. i did my last shot in my leg and it hurts to walk. i know when i take the winny i don't feel anything at all the next day feels fine. has anyone tried to warm theres up did it work any for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by stang View Post
    I have been using 22g or 23g pins do you think warming it might work? I feels hard under the shin where i stuck my self like i lump under the skin. i will try one more shot and go really slow. i can't keep dealing with this type of pain i don't even feel like working out. i did my last shot in my leg and it hurts to walk. i know when i take the winny i don't feel anything at all the next day feels fine. has anyone tried to warm theres up did it work any for them
    You might want a smaller pin. Draw with a 23g and inject with a 25g, does wonders for your injection sites.

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    Warm up the solution, inject slowly, and never do delts with the shit. I did my first delt shot with prop and HOLY ShIT!! Im sticking to glutes and quads. I think the key is to inject very slowly though.

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    hey guys i did a shot last night warmed it up and no pain so far today. so maybe that's the trick lets hope so anyway. thanks guys for all your help man i don't know what i would do with out this site thanks again to everyone

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    IMO, either you have a bad bottle of prop, or your pain threshold is low. I am thinking its a infection and you should not be doing another one. If the lump does not go away in 5 days, its an infection.

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    when i warmed it up everything went good feel fine

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    also might have went to fast with the first few shots this last one felt good no pain

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    LOL, typical mistakes injecting to fast, people want to get it over with. I take about 2 minutes to inject. It's so slow I cant hardly see the plunger moving but i dont get any pain. Also warming it is a GOOD idea. Let the gear sit in some HOT water for 5+ minutes before injecting. Like said, draw with a 22, inject with a 25. Painless.

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    wow you take up to 2min? i know why the prop hurt than it only look about 15 sec or so for me. Last night i warmed it up and took about 1min and the next day felt good. do you think i should warm my winny it has not hurt yet. also how many weeks would you run the winny with the prop? I was thinking 5 weeks at least this is my first cutting cycle and first time using test prop or winny. i know the prop kicks in after about 7 days but i have no idea how long it takes the winny to kick in since i have never been on it any idea guys. thanks again for all your help

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    it wont hurt to warm it for sure. Try something. Fill your syringe with water, now push with the same force you are normally injecting with. Watch how far the water goes. When it's inside you where do you think the liquid can go? Only slamming against the muscle bruising it.

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    another more drastic measure I have used is to dump all the prop I have into a beaker and cook it. just like a wine reduction sauce cook the BA out if it. not too long because you want some BA but I will cook for an half and hour or 45 min[/QUOTE]

    no no this is not the case at all,its takes alot of heat to evapearate b.a ,to cook the b.a out of a made product would for sure detroy the hormone leaveing just oil/bb/and some b.a ,the trick to cutting down the pain is to get some sterile grape seed oil and cut it with your prop on a 1/1 ratio heating it slightly before injecting .trying to cook the b.a out of a pruduct will not work and effect the hormone for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaGenetics View Post
    Warm up the solution, inject slowly, and never do delts with the shit. I did my first delt shot with prop and HOLY ShIT!! Im sticking to glutes and quads. I think the key is to inject very slowly though.
    i've done delts with this stuff and is not bad. as long you warm the gear and inject really slow its all good

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