Sust. Or cyp

[Thing]

I've been reading alot about this sounds like sust is not as great as people thnnk ? So what one is the better ?

[NMacFar]

What are your stats?

[Kratos]

both have advatages
what ever you get cheap will work
I have no definative preferance
you just need to sufficently pin which ever you go with

I think e3d for sust is minimum
2 x per week for E or C
so you're really talking about a small differance

I'd pick E or C for a first cycle
but have gotten good results with blends

[Thing]

I kind of agree with you on that i think i had better results with the c too.

[hankdiesel]

Sust might kick in a little quicker but that's it. I've never seen much else of a difference.

[NMacFar]

I hate the short esters of sust, and really has to be shot EOD in my opinion. Cyp is more convenient in the fact it can be shot twice a week.

[Just2Big]

I am on my first Test E cycle and will never do it again. On week 6 and It has barley kicked in. Some strenth, no real size. I have done sust and only pinned twice a week and my size went dramatically in the first 2 weeks. Never again am I waiting 5 or 6 weeks to see anything. And have to do a 12-15 week cycle. Stust or prop next time.

[Thing]

yea i agree thanks for the feed back

[Hazard]

Sust not done properly wreaks havic on the blood levels...... no reason to go that route anymore.

Test E or cyp should kick in by week 4..... anyone "experienced" knows it's not an "I can kick the worlds ass" feeling..... it's more subtle - but it's working. If one is really THAT concerned about "feeling" their test quicker..... they should run test prop for the 1st 4 weeks with their Test E..... it's a much better route.

~Haz~

[Tyler694]

cyp over sust

[skeldno]

Single ester test all the way for me :-)

[the big 1]

the long esters of sustanon dont kick in till 4-6 weeks down the line and they account

for most of its wieght mg for mg, this means the small amount of short ester you get

has to be shot eod if not ed, and it wont do much at that low dose imo. so you have to

shoot lots in the early weeks to feel it imo.

If you add up all the ester wieght in one 250mg shot, it accounts for most of the

wieght, which means you get less test than you would with a solo ester like cyp or

enth.

so i think cyp over rules sus any day, unless youre stacking with tren hex or summin.

[Ashop]

I've been reading alot about this sounds like sust is not as great as people thnnk ? So what one is the better ?

Ive always loved SUST. I think exceptional results are obtainable with either one.

[Thing]

thanks question answered def going to c.

[Tyler694]

the long esters of sustanon dont kick in till 4-6 weeks down the line and they account

for most of its wieght mg for mg, this means the small amount of short ester you get

has to be shot eod if not ed, and it wont do much at that low dose imo. so you have to

shoot lots in the early weeks to feel it imo.

If you add up all the ester wieght in one 250mg shot, it accounts for most of the

wieght, which means you get less test than you would with a solo ester like cyp or

enth.

so i think cyp over rules sus any day, unless youre stacking with tren hex or summin.

Great Post!

[oldschoolfitness]

i know everyone loves single esters, but the best results i have ever got was from sustanon 500mg/wk i have tried others but sust. is my fav. stay good and lean, great strength, etc. in the end test is test only difference is esters long and short so it really don't matter

[Rando911]

My last cycle was with cyp and I felt a better kick. However I always go back to the Test E for some reason. I never get any side effects with the Test E. Cyp gave me some small acne on my shoulders (which I have never gotten before).

[Tyler694]

i know everyone loves single esters, but the best results i have ever got was from sustanon 500mg/wk i have tried others but sust. is my fav. stay good and lean, great strength, etc. in the end test is test only difference is esters long and short so it really don't matter

You have had better success with sust compared to single ester?

Not that I don't believe you, but there are so many variables that can change the outcome of a cycle.. Personally, I have just never heard of anyone having better results from sust than from single ester test..

[oldschoolfitness]

yeah bro i know what you're saying. sometimes i feel like i'm the only person on the net that likes sust. the price of sust got so high i think it killed its chances. and there is no way i can say everything was the same(diet, training, rest, etc.) but the mgs were and the quality of the juice could have been low as oppossed to the other being high quality. the sust brands i have used : karachi (yellow label) mexican redijects (organon i think) and a couple of different ugl's. the single was test e and it was the aub. iranian ran that stuff for a whole year on and off good, but strength and sense of well being no comparison. maybe someone will mail me their sust now lol

[AlphaGenetics]

go with prop.

[Black]

What are your stats?

Looks like this question was passed up....

[Vullfromsc]

Looks like this question was passed up....

way to answer his question. so helpful in every thread arent we?

cyp is more stable, less fluctuation of test levels.. go with that

[Black]

way to answer his question. so helpful in every thread arent we?

cyp is more stable, less fluctuation of test levels.. go with that

Looks like the truth stings a little. So now you want to follow me around in threads and quotes my post? HA!

Actually, it would be helpful to know his stats. Do you want to give cycle advice to a 18 year old? Or someone who is 5'10" 160 lbs.? Or someone who is over 20% bodyfat?

I'm sure, by now, he's had plenty advice given. And good job, at repeating what has already been stated.

[Nobuddy]

i've never used Cyp, but a very close friend of mine just switched to it (from Sus) and says he'll NEVER go back.

based on what my friend said and what i'm hearing here, i'll definately give Cyp a try next go round.

[supermanfw]

ive made better mass gains from sus