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Thread: HCG really necessary during short cycle?

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    HCG really necessary during short cycle?

    10 days into my 1st cycle. I'm in my mid-thirties, been training for years and at around 9% bf. I am going very conservative and injecting 400 mgs. of testosterone cypionate once per week for only an 8 week cycle. My PCT will consist of only Nolva (20/20/20/10).

    Do I need HCG during such a short cycle? I found out HPTA shuts down pretty quickly during AAS usage and that even after PCT your testicle function will never be the same.

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    I would! Also you should get some clomid as well. Why put the money out of gear if your going to cheap out on the last $80-100 for clomid and HCG.

    I would rather know I did it right and give myself a better chance at keeping the gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG_GUNS_21 View Post
    I would! Also you should get some clomid as well. Why put the money out of gear if your going to cheap out on the last $80-100 for clomid and HCG.

    I would rather know I did it right and give myself a better chance at keeping the gains.
    Wouldn't nolva alone be sufficient enough for a short test-only cycle? I don't know why so many of you use both clomid and nolva for PCT. Seems like overkill. Doesn't clomid also affect vision? From the research that I've done, it seems nolva is superior to clomid because it takes less dosage to do the same thing.

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    I have ran just nolva in the past....nothing special. From what im reading now though as apposed to a couple yrs ago everyone is adding hcg in the mix. If I ever run another ill do the same for comparison. You may want to look into toremifene. I have felt quicker recovery using that during pct....just my .2c

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    If I were you I would run the test at 500mg for at least 10 weeks. I think you will be much happier with this cycle.

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