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    Anadrol + Anavar Question

    I have been lurking the boards for about a week now and have done some research about a few oral AAS's including Anadrol, Anavar, Dianabol, and Winstrol. I have on my computer William Llewellyn's "Anabolics 9th Edition" and have been using the information in there as well as what I find on the internet and am trying (at least on paper) to come up with my first cycle.

    To start things off I should say I dont deal well with needles and if possible want my first cycle to be an oral only cycle. I am aware that many on the boards feel that Test E is the ideal 1st cycle to be run but needles are just not something I am comfortable with. From my reading I have come to understand (someone please correct me if I am wrong) that Anavar is overall the safest AAS in terms of liver toxicity, and it having little to no estrogenetic effects. My goal is to simply put on another 8-15 lbs of quality lean muscle without having to go on a long time consuming heavy bulk. According to Williams book, Winstrol is very liver toxic and seems to destroy libido...so a Winny only cycle is out. His book also states that Anadrol has heavy estrogenetic effects, and since I am trying to not raise my estrogen levels that is also out as a single AAS cycle.


    I was wondering if assuming my diet and training were all in order, which of the following would be ideal for someone who is trying to gain 8-15 lbs of quality hard/lean muscle that will be maintainable once the cycle stops:

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    Dianabol + Anavar

    Weeks 1-2 Dbol 20mg/day - this would be to somewhat kick start the cycle
    Weeks 3-6 Anavar 20mg/day - this would be for the hopefully pure tissue gain and would help with putting on a few lbs of lean mass.

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    Anadrol + Anavar
    Weeks 1-2 Anadrol 50mg/day - this would also hopefully kick start the cycle
    Weeks 3-6 Anavar 20mg/day - again this would also be to hopefully add on pure tissue and help with the lean mass building.

    If anybody would like to critique either the dosages or time intervals please feel free to lend your 2 cents, Im trying to do this the educated and smart way as I want to be as safe as possible should I choose to actually begin on a cycle of this nature.


    PS. If anyone thinks I should do only the Anavar say 20-40mg/day for 4-8 weeks please let me know as I was also thinking that might be a good first cycle in and of itself. All constructive criticism is welcomed. Thank you.

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    Age?
    Height?
    Weight?
    Bodyfat?
    Years training?
    Pct knowledge?

    IMO both of the cycles you have proposed suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnstHatAngst View Post
    Age?
    Height?
    Weight?
    Bodyfat?
    Years training?
    Pct knowledge?

    IMO both of the cycles you have proposed suck.
    6 foot 1

    190-195 lbs

    BF I do not have an accurate measurement

    3 years training


    and as far as PCT I was thinking maybe Nolvadex say 20-30 mg/day for 3-5 weeks?


    I appreciate your opinion, thats why im here. Trying to learn as much as I can

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    Age?

    As for bodyfat, try to estimate how much chub are you holding. Six-pack? Good definition? Or soft? Fat even?

    For pct I would at least include clomid with the nolva.

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    um, im definitely not a soft 195. its mostly a little tummy fat. not so much a 6 pack as a top 4 pack i suppose.

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    your too skinny for aas ... learn to diet first

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa View Post
    your too skinny for aas ... learn to diet first
    okay, and at what height/weight combo do you think i would be big enough for aas?

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    ^Age is the first thing...can you wait till 24-25?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRG1 View Post
    okay, and at what height/weight combo do you think i would be big enough for aas?
    i like to use myself as a baseline ..
    i started lifting at 10 (my boxing coach made me).. got serious and a trainer at 14.. and lifted hard ever since...

    so naturally i was able to attain a weight of around 220-230lbs ~10-12%bf at a height of 5'11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrosaro View Post
    ^Age is the first thing...can you wait till 24-25?
    i mean, of course i could wait, but its more something that interests me now lol

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    Well, age is very important. You'd be messing with natural development at this point and that could have lasting negative consequences! Besides, I think just a good diet tweak and some hard work is really all you need to reach your stated goals.

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