Injectable Primo Ace VS. Anavar

[millionairemurph]

I am going to be starting my late spring cutter, and would like opinions and advice to help me choose which direction to go with this.

Stats:
Male, 6 foot 2, 232 lbs. Reach 81 inches. Bf very low teens I am guessing. My at home scale says 39%, but I think its BMI based.
Goal: Cutting. I am looking to cut some body fat, adding strength (if possible) and vascularity while maintaing if not increasing cardio output.

I do not have Masteron available to me right now. I will be running test prop at 150 mg a week during the course of this cycle, and of course already have my pct gear.
I most likely will not be using tren at all because of the severely negative effect it has on my cardio and the fact that I am an active athletic competitor. I have had the suggestion to run Tren ace at 25 mg a day along side of the prop and DHT-based aas, but that is not the topic for this thread.

I am looking for pros and cons of both oral anavar and injectable primo ace. I have read how weak primo (enth) is, but I imagine I would run it in higher doses than I have read others use.

I had been thinking or running one of these compounds at 100 mg-125 mg a day for 8 weeks.

Thank you for the help!

[millionairemurph]

Bump for replies. I understand many people may have not used primo ace. Maybe some of those who have used primo enth could chime in as well.

[firmechicano831]

bro I've been running primo at 400mg week for the past 6 week with 25mg of proviron without noticing shit. I would change to something else. I've seen changes and my power increase with just test, tren or deca . Nothing with Primo, I don't know why.

[Bloodsaw]

primo needs to be ran for a long time at high dosage to see real results, but most say what results are seen with primo, can be very easy to keep, and primo very little side effects..either way i think u should run a little test with this, maybe 250 mg a week...wouldnt hurt a thing..a little late for that now though...

Biggest downside of primo is not how uneffective it is, yet how expensive it is!!!!

[amostofi1999]

bro I've been running primo at 400mg week for the past 6 week with 25mg of proviron without noticing shit. I would change to something else. I've seen changes and my power increase with just test, tren or deca. Nothing with Primo, I don't know why.

i hear primo is faked a lot. also if you are not using schering then it is also possible that ur gear is under dosed. primo powder is expensive.

[Hazard]

I personally would go with the var...... I don't have experience with either but based upon my research...... var would seem like a more cost effective choice and would also probably yield better results given the ammount of time you will be cycling.....

~Haz~

[millionairemurph]

bro I've been running primo at 400mg week for the past 6 week with 25mg of proviron without noticing shit. I would change to something else. I've seen changes and my power increase with just test, tren or deca. Nothing with Primo, I don't know why.

Hey bro, thanks for replying. Don't take this as a flame at all.

1. I can't take tren , at least right now because it reduces my cardio big time. Yes, it is some amazing stuff. I love it. Can't do it right now.
2 Deca makes me bloat too much, even with an ai. NPP is better, but IMO, best used in a bulking or lean bulking cycle.
3 All I am looking to do here is maintain what muscle I have already. I will be in a major calorie deficit for 4-8 weeks while doing 1-3 hours of cardio a day. Its impossible, with any AAS to gain muscle here. I'm fine with that. After I have lost the amount of fat I need, I look to slowly increase my calories to above maintainace level to gain a small amount of very lean muscle while staying ripped. I'm talking 2-5 lbs if i'm lucky.
4 You are taking primo enthanate, which is a long acting version. It barelt has begun to kick in for you
5 I will be using acetate version, which not only is much much faster acting, but is significantly more powerfull mg for mg.
6 I will be running primo, if that's what I decide to use, at like 700-1000mg a week.

So I still may be able to say I could expect different results with primo. I still may use Var, but I was thinking unless someone had a very convincing reason why to use it over primo, then I would use primo, and possibly use a bit of Halo ( my fav) at the end of the cycle. I wouldn't risk running halo after or concurrently with another oral, no matter how mild Var is reputed to be. I only get 1 liver.

[millionairemurph]

I personally would go with the var...... I don't have experience with either but based upon my research...... var would seem like a more cost effective choice and would also probably yield better results given the ammount of time you will be cycling.....

~Haz~

I am planning on a full 12 or so week cycle, just cutting hard for the first part until I am very lean. Then staying there and possible adding a couple of pounds. I don't think I need 12 weeks of cutting. I do enough cardio everyday and a consistant enough diet I can drop bf pretty fast.

I used Var once, but it was at like 60mg a day if I remember, and I only ran it for like 1.5-2 weeks because I broke my leg. In that time, I had already pretty low bodyfat and I noticed a major increase in vascularity, though not much in the strenght department. I think the lack of strength was due to diet though, as I was cutting weight for a competition.

As far as what price I am looking at, Primo ace is about 20% less, mg for mg. I know I would be able to run more primo due to the length of use, more like 8400 mg, vs 5600 mg of use of Var. So Var would be a tad cheaper, but the difference here is minimal.

I have had fantastic results from winny before. I feel great while on it, but due to liver toxicity I wouldn't run it longer than 4 weeks.

[millionairemurph]

Oh BTW, Hazard, you look awesome man. After this cycle I hope to be close to where you are at, though probably not as thick. What are your stats?

[Hazard]

6'1" 245lbs in that pic.... bout 12%bf

~Haz~

[millionairemurph]

Wow, well your hard work shows man. I wont be any where near that for a while. If i end up 220 and very lean i'd be happy.

[millionairemurph]

Hey guys. I decided to go with the Primo. I will start it at 100 mg ED. I decided to go this route because I feel like it leaves me a couple more options that Var does. Namely being able to add winny or Halo (which I don't have available) if need be during the cycle. On paper, Primo is stronger both anabolically and androgenically than masteron , and hardening up while maintaining muscle and drying out is exactly what I am looking for. As many great thing as I have heard about Var, I will give it a run at some point. I'll post what I think about the Primo when I get started. Thank you all for you opinions and advice.