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    first cycle PCT help

    i got all my gear and im ready do use it, i just need help on timing my PCT.
    ill be injecting 500ml of sus250 weekly for 9 weeks then on week 6 threw 10 ill inject winny.
    i have clomid and nolv on hand, i just dont know when i should start using them. any suggestions?

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    I think sust's halflife is 15days. Start pct 2 weeks after your last injection of sust. That will run along nicely with your winny in wk 10. So wk 11 start PCT

    do you know the pct dosing?

    and I think you meant 500mg of sust not 500ml

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    yeah mg not ml
    so no clomid or nolv while on cycle? will this put me at risk of gyno during my cycle?
    not too familer with the PCT dosing.

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    I don't run either during cycle... I run an AI dosed at .25mg eod to combat bloat and gyno.

    Use clomid and nolva for pct dosed at:
    Nolva 40/20/20/20
    clomid 100/50/50/50

    that is week 11(mg per day)/week 12(mg per day)/week 13(mg per day)/ week 14(mg per day)

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    what is an AI? and when do you take it?
    so even if someone was prone to getting gyno they would be fine on my cycle?
    i just know you cant reverse gyno and i dont know how fast gyno can occur, 11 weeks is a long time. that's my only concern.

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    I would run a pct like this
    nolva 40/40/20/20
    clomid 100/100/50/50

    But everyone is different and everyone runs pct differently. As far as running it while on cycle yeah save your pct for after the cycle that why its a pct, but I just started my cycle of 500mg of test e a week for 12 weeks and if any gyno starts to show its ugly little face I will throw in nolva to combat it and keep it in check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DillonSmash View Post
    what is an AI? and when do you take it?
    so even if someone was prone to getting gyno they would be fine on my cycle?
    i just know you cant reverse gyno and i dont know how fast gyno can occur, 11 weeks is a long time. that's my only concern.
    If your gyno prone then you might get it and will need something to keep it in check. And actually you can reverse gyno its just that it works better for some more then others. Do a search for gyno reversal and they have a few methods some which use nolva which I will be using if it appears. Just look out for tender nipples, itchy, or puffy then you know you are getting it and jump on something to stop it on its tracks.

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    Dillion you have some more research to do before you cycle. This information should have been done before getting your stuff. Nobody asked you about stats so I am going to before I advice you anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBullet View Post
    If your gyno prone then you might get it and will need something to keep it in check. And actually you can reverse gyno its just that it works better for some more then others. Do a search for gyno reversal and they have a few methods some which use nolva which I will be using if it appears. Just look out for tender nipples, itchy, or puffy then you know you are getting it and jump on something to stop it on its tracks.
    cool, yeah ill keep an eye on it when im on cycle. if i do see gyno and take nolva during cycle will it have a negative effect on my gains?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrosaro View Post
    Dillion you have some more research to do before you cycle. This information should have been done before getting your stuff. Nobody asked you about stats so I am going to before I advice you anymore.
    these are his stats.

    Age: 21
    6'2 240lbs 17%'sh bf
    been lifting for 7 years
    bench 300
    squat 430
    clean 365
    liver support: milk thistle.
    PCT: clomid, nolv


    I know he is young but it sounds as if he is determined to do this no matter what so I would rather inform him then let him screw himself up.
    Last edited by DaBullet; 04-21-2010 at 01:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrosaro View Post
    Dillion you have some more research to do before you cycle. This information should have been done before getting your stuff. Nobody asked you about stats so I am going to before I advice you anymore.
    My name is dillon btw...
    i dont want to give you my stats...
    and im just looking for repeatability on this info. theirs a lot of bullshit on the internet.
    and dumbasses...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DillonSmash View Post
    cool, yeah ill keep an eye on it when im on cycle. if i do see gyno and take nolva during cycle will it have a negative effect on my gains?
    Yes it can hold back your gains a bit but would you rather have gained 10 lbs of solid muscle or 20lbs of muscle and trade in your tank tops in for a nice D cup bra!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrosaro View Post
    Dillion you have some more research to do before you cycle. This information should have been done before getting your stuff. Nobody asked you about stats so I am going to before I advice you anymore.
    Quote Originally Posted by DaBullet View Post
    these are his stats.

    Age: 21
    6'2 240lbs 17%'sh bf
    been lifting for 7 years
    bench 300
    squat 430
    clean 365
    liver support: milk thistle.
    PCT: clomid, nolv


    I know he is young but it sounds as if he is determined to do this no matter what so I would rather inform him then let him screw himself up.
    oh lol thats stuff when i joined. my stats are different now and i know alot more. that's when i started researching.

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    my bad Dill, those are the only stats I could find of yours but im sure your still rather young and still tall!! lol

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    that's my most up to date stuff but some of it is still old.
    Last edited by DillonSmash; 04-21-2010 at 02:25 PM.

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    you might want to edit that last post... your bodyspace is linked to your facebook and has a lot of personal info on it. I'm not saying people will f*** with you, but there are jackasses every once in a while on every forum.

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    good point. its sad but thanks

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