1st cycle ,given by trainer, hence my fear ,need some advice

[dms2425]

Hello , I've been training on and off for about 5 years, I've had pretty good results overall , Right now, I have the chance to try steroids for the first time ,I am 26 years old and around 177lbs 1.81mts , Im guessing around 13-14% BF , I'll give you some pics at the end of the post.

I dont live in the U.S. , and I dont know ANYBODY that uses AAS, all my research is the one I've done reading this forums .

my diet right now looks something like this

Lifting days:
Protein: 200 grams
Carbs: 170 grams
Fat: 40 grams

Non Lifting days:
Protein: 210 grams
Carbs: 120 grams
Fat: 55 grams

Im using a 3 day split and doing 30mins of LISS on my off days, I sometimes do 14-16 mins of hit on my lifting days.
My goal During this cycle is to drop my BF and try to mantain as much musle as possible, or even gaining some lbs of muscle.

I have the amounts of winstrol and primobolan in cc's ,Im not sure how many mgs, they are.


This is the exact sheet that he gave me , I have some questions , I dont like the PCT , and Im not sure the quantities are the right ones, here it is :



Winstrol(Weekly)Primobolan(Weekly) Proviron(mg/ed)Nolvadex(mg/ED)clomid
2cc----------------1cc---------------25--------------------------------
2cc----------------1cc---------------25--------------------------------
3cc----------------2cc---------------25--------------------------------
3cc----------------2cc---------------25--------------------------------
2cc----------------1cc---------------25--------------------------------
2cc----------------2cc---------------25--------------------------------
--------------------------------------25--------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------30-----------100-
------------------------------------------------------20------------50-



Its 9 weeks total, he told me to take 1250UI/E3D of HCG during the 7th week.

From what I've read over here, it says I should start the HCG early in the cycle, also , all the PCT I've seen from other members look longer than 2 weeks.

Like I said, ANY help you guys can give me would be greatly appreciated,I want to start the cycle en 4-5 weeks, I want to drop some more fat before I start.

English isnt my 1st language, sorry for the grammar or spelling.
mistakes.

I'll upload those pics as soon as I get home.





Thanks

[Bonaparte]

Your guy is an idiot.

He has you on 2 5a-reduced steroids (they don't convert to estrogen) along with proviron? How dry do you need to be?!

He is just trying to sell you a bunch of expensive stuff. Test with a winny finish would be fine.

[Bossman]

You shouldn't be using steroids. Your diet is too low in protein. Did your trainer give you your diet??

You would be better off letting your trainer go and learning what you need to know on this site. Most trainers (not all, some good ones on this site) have little knowledge to support their trade. Im helping prepare 3 trainers for a local bodybuilding contest as we speak and Im not a fvcking trainer!

[dms2425]

well, that is my current diet, it should change when I start the cycle, what can I change about the cycle?

[marcus300]

You shouldn't be using steroids. Your diet is too low in protein. Did your trainer give you your diet??

You would be better off letting your trainer go and learning what you need to know on this site. Most trainers (not all, some good ones on this site) have little knowledge to support their trade. Im helping prepare 3 trainers for a local bodybuilding contest as we speak and Im not a fvcking trainer!

I agree^^

Your diet needs adjusting before even consider doing steroids, also the cycle is rubbish and shouldnt be used IMHO, I would do some research on first time cycles and head over to the diet section and re-design your diet to suit your needs.

[dms2425]

do you guys think an anavar only cycle would do the job ? with a proper diet that is

[Morgoth]

Anavar could work, but it will only drop your bodyfat by around 2-4%. I suggest taking Clen only and following that up with a strong cardio regimen. Also get your diet fixed from the diet forum. Make sure to let them know you are thinking about cutting.

EDIT: Anavar will gain you some lean muscle. Clen wont gain you any muscle but AFAIK fat loss will be greater with Clen and sides will be lower.

[dms2425]

well, my goal is 2-4 BF%, since its my first cycle, I'd like to to be as simple as possible, doI need any PCT for a anavar cycle only? I just read on antoher post to do nolva/clomid

[taiboxa]

I agree^^

Your diet needs adjusting before even consider doing steroids, also the cycle is rubbish and shouldnt be used IMHO, I would do some research on first time cycles and head over to the diet section and re-design your diet to suit your needs.

i concur

[Hard.On]

I agree^^

Your diet needs adjusting before even consider doing steroids, also the cycle is rubbish and shouldnt be used IMHO, I would do some research on first time cycles and head over to the diet section and re-design your diet to suit your needs.

Trust me!! When Marcus uses the word rubbish to describe a cycle, it couldnt be a worse cycle.

[dms2425]

I discarded that cycle, Im not going to use it, Im thinking about an anavar cycle only, that diet is RIGHT NOW, its not the one I'lll be using if I start a cycle! , any thoughts on a var cycle only for me?

[2jz_calgary]

anavar only wont really give you any substancial gains especially if your diet isnt right. My advice to you is train hard and get your diet going meanwhile do all the reading you can and put together the knowledge to do a proper cycle.

[Bossman]

I discarded that cycle, Im not going to use it, Im thinking about an anavar cycle only, that diet is RIGHT NOW, its not the one I'lll be using if I start a cycle! , any thoughts on a var cycle only for me?

The pics are helpful. You're starting to build a base but still have a lot of room for improvement.

"My goal During this cycle is to drop my BF and try to mantain as much musle as possible, or even gaining some lbs of muscle."

You should be able to do this with diet and training alone. Are you leaning out for a competition, photo shoot, sport, or just appearance?

[dms2425]

Im just doing it just to look good , no photo shoot or sport Involved

[Kiki]

Run a test/winny cycle.

Your trainer basically gave you a cycle missing the most important base compound - a testosterone ester, which means he doesn't know much about AAS.

[tubs]

well, my goal is 2-4 BF%, since its my first cycle, I'd like to to be as simple as possible, doI need any PCT for a anavar cycle only? I just read on antoher post to do nolva/clomid

If you really want to keep it simple run test only and see how your body reacts to that before doing anything else.

[Bossman]

Run a test/winny cycle.

Your trainer basically gave you a cycle missing the most important base compound - a testosterone ester, which means he doesn't know much about AAS.

He doesn't need any steroids. Why would you tell him to run any kind of cycle. His goals are very modest. If he can't achieve them with diet and training alone then he needs help there, not chemical help.

[Kiki]

True, if all he wants to do is drop 2-4% from where he's currently at then steroids are overboard for that goal.

[dms2425]

Yeah, I dont think Im lean enough to do a test cycle, hopefully In a couple of months I'll be at 10% bf and I'll do a cycle, but I'm still thinking in taking some an anavar for 8 weeks