Anavar & Winnie Cycle

**The Black Clark Kent** · 04-23-2010, 01:45 PM

Stats
24 yrs old
5'9
207lbs
7 yrs experience on and off
Body Fat% Not sure haven't checked in a while

Goal: Get lean and ripped.

Hey Just want some opinions:
I have some cycle of 6 weeks Fina 100mg EOD and Masteron 100mg EOD and also in the middle of Fina 100mg EOD and Winnie 100mg EOD and Test Cyp 300mgs a week 3 weeks so far. I'm 207 5'9 and have good mass.. I use to be a bigger kid 295 5'7 in high school and lost a bunch of weight went down to 187lbs and now have bulked up to 207lbs. I'm looking to get Lean and get some serious definition. I wanna know how a winnie and var cycle for 8 weeks would do for me running Winnie at 100mgs EOD and Anavar at 60mgs ED.. I know both are C17alpha-alkylated steroids which is liver toxic, But I also know Var is on of the mildest steroids on the liver when it comes to hepatotoxicity. I'm not to concerned about joint pain either. I take milk thistle, liv.52 and glucosamine-7 for my joints. I know most cycles should have a test base but I'd rather stay away from the water retention and the aromatization. I dont mind loosing a little mass to get lean and defined. My diet is really clean (low soduim, low sugar, low carb and low fat I intake about 2000-2500 calories daily) and do 30-45 min of cardio everyday and work out 4-6x weekly. So that being said an oral var 60mgs ed with injectable winnie 100mgs eod for 8 weeks.. will this yield definition and fat loss.. and what would be a good PCT

**Andro9** · 04-23-2010, 01:50 PM

you may want to do a little more research. this doesn't look well thought out.

**The Black Clark Kent** · 04-23-2010, 01:55 PM

I'm still researching just want some opinions from people more knowledgeable and with more insight then myself

**megayo** · 04-23-2010, 08:32 PM

I think this is a great idea! And its what you want for your goals. Just keep your diet strict and in line. It wil be highly affective. I ran winny only a fews years ago and kept cardio high and calories low. And i turned into Tyler derdan. LOL. Really, go for it.

But with me personlly now. At this stage of my cycle experience. I would add test prop at a low dose.. Like 50mg eod. Just for the edge of TEst. I love the stuff! Think about it. It will def help. It wont take away from your goal

**sanman** · 04-23-2010, 08:40 PM

I was thinking of running just winny alone ,but after all the re-search on the forum I decieded not to do it.It just aint worth the risk taking winny by itself.Plus my wife would kill me if I cant perform!!!!!!

**CRUISECONTROL** · 04-23-2010, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by sanman

I was thinking of running just winny alone ,but after all the reasearch on the forum I decieded not to do it.It just aint worth the risk taking winny by itself.Plus my wife would kill me if I cant perform!!!!!!

**CRUISECONTROL** · 04-23-2010, 08:50 PM

look anavar by itself ok..... but fina and mast and winny without test prop is not a good idea.. see sanman's post.........research research research

**megayo** · 04-23-2010, 09:05 PM

On my winn only cycle. I had no prob performing at all! MAybe it was bc i was 22. Or maybe its just a bunch of hype for nothing. It may lightly supress but it doesnt shut you down. My speculations.

**CRUISECONTROL** · 04-23-2010, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by megayo

On my winn only cycle. I had no prob performing at all! MAybe it was bc i was 22. Or maybe its just a bunch of hype for nothing. It may lightly supress but it doesnt shut you down. My speculations.

Maybe you had fake gear.... or maybe it wasnt winny

**megayo** · 04-23-2010, 09:26 PM

yeah? Okay. Def not fake. I turned into a shredder. LOL

**The Black Clark Kent** · 04-24-2010, 11:42 AM

Thanks for the Insight... Has any one ever ran winnie and var at the same time and does it add to the effectiveness on how quickly it works.

@ megayo if test prop is added to the cylce should i run an anti estrogen like arimidex or nolvadex and will it help with trying to lean out because im naturally... Endomorphic