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04-23-2010, 03:39 PM #1New Member
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In depth cycle advice needed of first timer
Hey guys, im pretty new around here, and i've been researching gear for quite a bit on here, and im thinking of getting my hands on some and making myself a cycle.
I have never taken any sort of gear before. I started getting physically active and dropped a lot of fat this past year. I also have a pretty good gym membership and started lifting a little over a year now. I estimate i have gained a good 5-7 lbs of muscle in this period, i put in hard work 4 or 5 days a week using a 3 way split, and the gains came from sleeping lots, drinking lots of water, eating protein and nutrient rich foods at high calories 6 times a day. I know that i am not near my genetic ceiling, but i figured i would run some things to get to my max natural muscle, then keeping it naturally, then not really use gear that much if i chose not to. From what i have heard, you cannot keep muscle above your max without cycling a little every now and then anyways. I am 20 years old. I know this is not an optimal age, but i feel that it is okay. Comments are very welcome.
I am scared to death of injections, and dont have much money anyways, so I thought i would just do a cycle of just dianabol @ 6 weeks @ 30 mg ED, then continue with a 21 day period of PCT. This is where i need the most advice. I know that running a course of nolvadex and clomid post cycle is standard for a cycle like this, but can i just use nolvadex? I would like to keep as much of the gains as possible, and i should use clomid to get my natural test levels up pronto, but does nolvadex cover this well enough or is this just overkill? Another question is about gyno. Should i ignore it then run nolva for 3 weeks after hoping to go away, or should i start taking the nolva mid cycle if i feel my nipples getting sore or if there is female tissue growth? or can i somehow do both? I wouldnt really like to just stick to nolva, and if necessary, clomid. Besides that i guess i will just try to eat a lot and put in hard hard work in the gym. Thanks for your comments.
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how old you
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04-23-2010, 03:41 PM #3
don't bother if you are afraid of injections. You don't sound ready at all. What are your stats?
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04-23-2010, 03:54 PM #4New Member
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hey, i mentioned in the post that i am 20. Stats are 5"7-8ish, 155 lbs. I mean im not really afraid of injections much, i just wouldnt drop the cash on them now seeing as i am not rich, and ive seen from a few sources that a dbol only for a first time ever cycle is acceptable. Even if no future steroids were used, and natural hormone levels were brought back to normal, i think i could keep the gains as i keep a very good informed healthy lifestyle and like my time in the gym when everything goes right - and id like to give gear a try for these purposes.
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04-23-2010, 04:44 PM #5
You're not ready for steroids . It's not just your age (that alone is reason enough, you do know you're still physically maturing right?), it's your experience training and dieting to build muscle. Building lean mass takes time and dedication, with or without AAS. You should have years of training experience under your belt. If you were to use AAS now, your muscle would grow stronger faster then your connective tissue opening yourself up to injury. Although, the increased strength (and size) with Dbol would be temporary.
It's recommended a first cycle be test only. Your natural test is at it's highest now. Take advantage of that. Dbol will shut your natural test production down and you don't need that.
Spend a couple of years learning how to train to gain mass, if that is your goal. And, learn how to eat to gain mass. You should be able to add 20-30 lbs naturally over several years without AAS. If you still haven't met your goals, then consider AAS when you're ready. Why risk your health, spend money, and break the law if you don't have too??
This is a lifestyle. If you really like what you're doing, do it right. I've lifted since I was 12, and Im now 47.Last edited by Bossman; 04-23-2010 at 04:47 PM.
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04-23-2010, 04:46 PM #6
agreed with cgb... your weight is of what my boy weighs... and he doesnt even lift... i think same height, i started cycling around 175.
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