first cycle. what do you think?

**jqwerty1** · 04-26-2010, 12:39 PM

ok so im gettign ready to start my first cycle in a couple of weeks. I will be using:

Test Prop: 75mg EOD
TrenAce :40-50mg EOD
i will be cycling for 10-12 weeks.
will be using clomid/nolva for PCT

stats are:
18 y/o
5'9
185lbs

benchmax: ~315
squatmax: ~405
DLmax: ~425

FEEDBACK WELCOME.
*If you have a genuine concern about my cycle let me know and ill be happy to consider your opinion. thanks.

*And no negative comments on my age, or the fact in using Tren for my first cycle. This cycle was reccomended to me by a Vet at my gym. No matter what you say, you wont change my mind, as I have talked to a couple Vet bodybuilders at my local gym who have told me I'll be fine as long as I dont go overboard on dosing.

**Matt** · 04-26-2010, 12:43 PM

Get your vet on line so i can tell him what a complete fool he is..

Then give me his address so i can come round and kill him before he kills you...

**Hard.On** · 04-26-2010, 12:43 PM

FEEDBACK WELCOME.

*And no negative comments on my age, or the fact in using Tren for my first cycle. This cycle was reccomended to me by a Vet at my gym. No matter what you say, you wont change my mind, as I have talked to a couple Vet bodybuilders at my local gym who have told me I'll be fine as long as I dont go overboard on dosing.[/QUOTE]

If you dont want to hear it, then you shouldnt have posted it on this forum.
Not a good first cycle
and you are too young

Thats the end of it.
That Vet at your is a POS for reccomending this to you. he obv. has no concern for your well being.

**jqwerty1** · 04-26-2010, 12:50 PM

What would you recommend instead of the tren ? i dont want to take dbol . Also I didnt put in that the Tren would start off with a way lower dose and gradually build up. not sure if that makes a difference, but please let me know what u think. Honestly theres alot of teen my age using steroids and staying perfectly healthy. Im not using to just get jacked, im trying to compete and win. The Vet at my gym knows alot of the teen competitiors and says they are all using steroids so "too young" isnt a valid reason to not take them.

**DaBullet** · 04-26-2010, 12:51 PM

Bro stop what you are doing and dont even take anything right now you are much to young bro you are just going to Fu@k yourself up!!

**jqwerty1** · 04-26-2010, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by DaBullet

Bro stop what you are doing and dont even take anything right now you are much to young bro you are just going to Fu@k yourself up!!

the gains im seeing are getting upsetting. My training and diet are both on point. Ive been told by several people that if i can keep them that way a cycle will do wonders for me. Also ive been training for ~5 years so im one of the few teens who knows what im doing. As far as cycling im willing to take some advice as im not a pro on the subject. I have read quite a bit on this forum and was skeptical on the tren for a first cycle, but i want to trust what the Vet at my gym told me. If someone can give me some solid reasons on why i shouldnt do this then do so. I will take all advice!

**Hard.On** · 04-26-2010, 12:55 PM

Read this
AAS: Things to consider before starting a first cycle (Great Read)

Any teen who takes steroids is going to get jacked and seem perfectly healthy now.
Think long term bud, I know guys like your perfectly healthy friends who couldnt wait either. Now they have to take viagra to get it up among other problems and they are not that old.

Dont look short term,
Look long term

**DaBullet** · 04-26-2010, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by jqwerty1

What would you recommend instead of the tren? i dont want to take dbol. Also I didnt put in that the Tren would start off with a way lower dose and gradually build up. not sure if that makes a difference, but please let me know what u think. Honestly theres alot of teen my age using steroids and staying perfectly healthy. Im not using to just get jacked, im trying to compete and win. The Vet at my gym knows alot of the teen competitiors and says they are all using steroids so "too young" isnt a valid reason to not take them.

Wait to see what those "teens" are going to look like later on in life gauranteed you and they will not be able to get it up after you are about 28 or 30...and why even ask if you are going to do it no matter what???

**Hard.On** · 04-26-2010, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by jqwerty1

the gains im seeing are getting upsetting. My training and diet are both on point. Ive been told by several people that if i can keep them that way a cycle will do wonders for me. Also ive been training for ~5 years so im one of the few teens who knows what im doing. As far as cycling im willing to take some advice as im not a pro on the subject. I have read quite a bit on this forum and was skeptical on the tren for a first cycle, but i want to trust what the Vet at my gym told me. If someone can give me some solid reasons on why i shouldnt do this then do so. I will take all advice!

What is your diet?
Take the time to write it all out.

**jqwerty1** · 04-26-2010, 01:03 PM

Diet:
Meal 1 : 5egg whites, 2 whole eggs, 1cup oatmeal, 1cup milk
Meal 2 : 8-10oz chicken breast, 1cup white rice, 1/2-1cup veggies
Meal 3 : 8-10oz chicken breast, 1cup brown rice, 1/2-1cup fruit
Meal 4 : 10oz talapia, 1cup veggies, 2tbs PB
Meal 5 : 8-10oz chicken breast, 1cup brown rice, 1/2-1cup veggies
I usually have 1-2 protein shakes, but they arent at the same time every day. usually ill have one before breakfast and 1 post workout.

**DaBullet** · 04-26-2010, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by jqwerty1

the gains im seeing are getting upsetting. My training and diet are both on point. Ive been told by several people that if i can keep them that way a cycle will do wonders for me. Also ive been training for ~5 years so im one of the few teens who knows what im doing. As far as cycling im willing to take some advice as im not a pro on the subject. I have read quite a bit on this forum and was skeptical on the tren for a first cycle, but i want to trust what the Vet at my gym told me. If someone can give me some solid reasons on why i shouldnt do this then do so. I will take all advice!

Bro we aint trying to be d!cks about it the thing is that your body could do so much on its own without taking anything...and this vet of yours obviously aint no "vet" if he is telling you to take tren on your first cycle and especially someone his age....let ask is he the one that will be supplying you as well??

**jqwerty1** · 04-26-2010, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by DaBullet;5161***

Bro we aint trying to be d!cks about it the thing is that your body could do so much on its own without taking anything...and this vet of yours obviously aint no "vet" if he is telling you to take tren on your first cycle and especially someone his age....let ask is he the one that will be supplying you as well??

yes he is supplying me. i havent got a price yet but he said he will cut me a deal if i am serious about competing. if you think tren is that bad of an idea, what should i run instead?

**Matt** · 04-26-2010, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by jqwerty1

yes he is supplying me. i havent got a price yet but he said he will cut me a deal if i am serious about competing?

There will be no price talk on this board..

Please read the rules....

**jqwerty1** · 04-26-2010, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by 007

There will be no price talk on this board..

Please read the rules....

sorry. will edit

**Hard.On** · 04-26-2010, 02:33 PM

Meal 1: Pro/Carb

8 Egg Whites, 1 Scoop Of Whey Protein, 1 cup oatmeal

50g protein / 54g carbs / 5g fat

Meal 2: Pro/Fat

Lean Ground Beef, ¼ cup swiss cheese, green veggies

55g protein / 2g carbs / 20g fat

Meal 3: Pro/Carb

Chicken Breast, 1 and a half cup Brown Rice

55g protein / 64g carbs / 3g Fat
**Disclaimer: Meal 3 can be a pro/fat meal if you are ultra sensitive to carb intake.

Meal 4: Pro/Fat

2 Cans of Tuna, 1 Tbsp Full Fat Mayonnaise, Veggies

60g protein / 2g carbs / 13g Fat

Workout

Meal 5: PWO Nutrition

2 Scoops Whey Protein / 80g of Dextrose

40g protein / 80g carbs / 0g fat

Meal 6: PPWO

Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast, ½ cup Brown Rice (Measured Uncooked)

50g protein / 70g carbs / 3g fat

Meal 7: Pro/Fat

Lean Protein of your choice, 2 Tbsp Natural Peanut Butter
50g protein / 5g carbs / 18g fat

Meal 8: Before Bed

3 Scoops of Whey Protein, 1.5 Tbsp. Flax Seed Oil

60g protein / 3g carbs / 21g Fat

That turns into approximately 420 grams protein, 250 grams Carbs, and 83 grams of fat. This is roughly 3500 calories

Try this doet from LeanMEout

**jqwerty1** · 04-26-2010, 07:09 PM

ok thanks alot, but this doesnt change the fact i will be cycling, so id like more advice about what else i should take besides Prop.

**DaBullet** · 04-26-2010, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by jqwerty1

yes he is supplying me. i havent got a price yet but he said he will cut me a deal if i am serious about competing. if you think tren is that bad of an idea, what should i run instead?

ok the reason I asked if he was supplying was because I knew he was going to be the supplies why else would he tell you to take all this crap which everyone...well almost everyone, knows you shouldn't be taking. He wants to sell the most he can to whoever he can sell it too so he could make the most money possible off you. Sure he's going to say he will give you a great pricw but they tell me that everytime I go look at a car too and it never happens. Dude he doesn't have ur best interest in mind, he has his wallets best interest. Even older guys who just start to cycle start with a test only cycle and he's telling you a 18 year old to take tren !!? Like I said bro aint trying to be a d!ck just keeping it real.

**jqwerty1** · 04-26-2010, 11:43 PM

good points. So I should take a test only cycle?

**tronics** · 04-26-2010, 11:51 PM

i started cycling at your age and now have to be on TRT at 26... it sucks.

**DaBullet** · 04-27-2010, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by tronics

i started cycling at your age and now have to be on TRT at 26... it sucks.

Here is a prime reason why not to take anything at such a young age bro....Thanks tronics for letting this youngster know, everything we are telling you is to benifit you bro.

**Hard.On** · 04-27-2010, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by jqwerty1

good points. So I should take a test only cycle?

You are being way to Thick Headed here.

EVERYONE keeps telling you not to cycle PERIOD.

Do you think we are all just on this forum to talk people out of doing AAS. The forum is here to help educate you on making the right choice. If you are going to cycle. You are on your own....

I guess you can ask your dealer what he will sell you to help fight the side effects. He be glad to help.

**jqwerty1** · 04-27-2010, 07:49 PM

Like I stated before, It is my personal choice to cycle. I know the risks and effects it can have and I understand im a little young. At this point I have decided I will do it no matter what anyone says. All im asking for is that you respect my choice and give me the best possible advice you can so that i can have a successful cycle.

**awesome1** · 04-27-2010, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by jqwerty1

Like I stated before, It is my personal choice to cycle. I know the risks and effects it can have and I understand im a little young. At this point I have decided I will do it no matter what anyone says. All im asking for is that you respect my choice and give me the best possible advice you can so that i can have a successful cycle.

Have you read any of the posts in this thread at all? Everyone is saying that the best advice is to not cycle at all. you cannot have a successful cycle at your age.