Long Cycle Advice

[sixxer]

For those with experience running longer cycles (16 weeks plus) and those with knowledge of them, please respond.

I planned on running my Test C + Deca cycle 16 weeks but have had thoughts of extending it to 20 weeks.

What will be the concern with extending it to 20 weeks?

1. Longer PCT? Will 6 weeks Nolva+Clomid suffice?
2. Longer/Permanent HPTA shutdown? Possible after a 20 week cycle?
3. Can't think of anything else.

Thanks in advance.

[MORPHIN]

For those with experience running longer cycles (16 weeks plus) and those with knowledge of them, please respond.

I planned on running my Test C + Deca cycle 16 weeks but have had thoughts of extending it to 20 weeks.

What will be the concern with extending it to 20 weeks?

1. Longer PCT? Will 6 weeks Nolva+Clomid suffice?
2. Longer/Permanent HPTA shutdown? Possible after a 20 week cycle?
3. Can't think of anything else.

Thanks in advance.

if your running 20 weeks I would run HCG throughout, I would also run 10 weeks enth and 10 weeks cyp, as for PCT i would hit it more aggressive then your norm. make sure you have it all planned out before starting when running long cycles

[Swifto]

Length of cycle is the main culprit when starting thye HPTA, not dose of androgens. Also AAS choice, Deca/Tren are notoriously harder to recover from.

Use HCG during your cycle. Week 2-10, then 12-20. Then begin PCTwith SERMs for a minimum of 6 weeks.

[sixxer]

Thanks for the response.

I should have clarified this, but I am already on this cycle, nearly completed week 13.

I have not been running HCG and do not have access to any. Though even if I did, I have read a couple things regarding it which scare me from wanting to use it anyway.

Would you advise against extending the cycle to 20 weeks and stick to the original 16 in light of the fact I have not been running HCG and will not have any for PCT?

Or will an extended aggressive PCT of Nolva 40/40/20/20/20/20, Clomid 100/100/50/50/50/50 and Vit. E 1000iu/1000iu/1000iu and possibly a natural PCT/Test Booster such as Tribulus or Novedex XT be sufficient?

Thanks again.

[Swifto]

No, there is no substitute for HCG. Not after 20 weeks of shutdown.

If you dont use it during your cycle at any point, then expect to use it in the weekd leading to PCT, or the first 2-3 weeks.

HCG used at the correct dose and duration is safe.

[sixxer]

Ok.

Thanks, Swifto.

Does ARR do HCG?

[fattywarbucks]

Thanks for the response.

I should have clarified this, but I am already on this cycle, nearly completed week 13.

I have not been running HCG and do not have access to any. Though even if I did, I have read a couple things regarding it which scare me from wanting to use it anyway.

Would you advise against extending the cycle to 20 weeks and stick to the original 16 in light of the fact I have not been running HCG and will not have any for PCT?

Or will an extended aggressive PCT of Nolva 40/40/20/20/20/20, Clomid 100/100/50/50/50/50 and Vit. E 1000iu/1000iu/1000iu and possibly a natural PCT/Test Booster such as Tribulus or Novedex XT be sufficient?

Thanks again.

If you do use a testbooster with your pct, or after for a little extra boost after pct is done, don't waste your time with tribulous. Its effect on LH has been disproven time and time again. If anything, just go with DAA D-aspartic acid @ 3 grams perday. Its been shown to increase test by 1/3 in HEALTHY ACTIVE YOUNG men. I know the ******************* store has it.

Just remember, with most of the so called testbooster, they are actually just thought to increase test bc they increase erections and sperm quality in infertility studies done in poor developing nations.

As far as your pct goes, you way to advanced for me, so best of luck and sucess