first time trying roids help would be appreciated :)

[abbz0003]

Hi guys im a 21 yr old male, Im 5 9" 180lbs 6-8% bf varies, workout exp of 3yrs.
Now guys heres the thing i dont have a problem making gains. I have not hit plateau and with constant training i make gains of about a pound or 2 a month. The problem is me and my friends are very competitive.......the majority of my friends started out as nothing and are now catching up and exceeding me in a yr what took me more than 3yrs because of steroid use . Now i never rush into things and i just need someone to really break it down for me. I need a good bulker with little side effects.. infact i would rather have something with less side effects and less gains compared to something with more se and more gains. but it has to be a bulker. what about post cycle therapy? anything else i should know before trying this please let me know. thanks guys ....oh btw my grandfather had a heart attack and so did my uncle which might mean i have bad heart genes but than again they were not healthy and i smoke btw but do cardio all the time.. what about hairloss? im on propecia as it is lol

[Swifto]

21 years old if a little on the low side IMHO. Your stats are good though.

If I were to sugest ANY androgens, it would be mild and non-aromotasing one's, such as Hdrol and Tbol.

Then PCT with Tamox 20mg/ED for 4-5 weeks.

[abbz0003]

are these bulkers? what am i looking at gaining and keeping? how many shots/mg a week would i take? hairloss? can i find these roids on this site?

[Kibble]

1st rule of roids......... don't use the word roids

[Kibble]

korean doctor basically told me that I could use THC to lower my blood pressure. So I am sayin weird shit- disregard

[arejay]

korean doctor basically told me that I could use THC to lower my blood pressure. So I am sayin weird shit- disregard

this jamaican doctor told me the same thing. 92/45 aint to shabby

[Kibble]

My BP today was 165/98

I am done hijacking

[ScotchGuard]

The human endocrine system doesn't fully mature until about age 25. It is not recommended that persons under that age start on AAS. Be careful, you could mess yourself up. AAS shouldn't be used to boost the ego, it's too dangerous. IMHO

[cobra305]

If you are still making gains naturally what is the point of using aas? Who gives a shit what your friends are doing, live your own life it is part of growing up. If they were smoking meth would you do that to? You should maximize your natural potential, but it's your body do as you will.

[j.daddy]

Man do your research. 21 is young to start, you still have a fairly high test level. If you do decide to I would recomend 500mg of test and 300mg of deca a week. Pct should be nalvadex and/or clomid.

[fattywarbucks]

Your friends sound like the type that start a cycle one week after lifting their first weight.
If I were you, id quit smoking (just for general help,not so much aas) and keep gaining naturally until you start to slow.
And in the mean time, comfort yourself with the fact that you friends probably did this way to soon, bad cycles, and probably crap pct and will undoubtable end up with fvked joints and the type of teets only a starving baby pig would want to suckle. (Or be a good friend and educate them with the knowledge you gain while asking questions on sites like this)

Good stats though

[gbrice75]

Doing AAS to be competitive with your friends.... dude it's your life but that's about the most irresponsible thing i've heard in a while.

[edmen2]

let ur friends go, they are basically trying to sprint a marathon! they will hit a point where they are cycling just to maintain what they could have reached naturally. u will eventually leave them in the dust! save ur first cause its always the best and u never duplicate that first gain! patience, patience, patience!

[abbz0003]

wow this is a surprise i thought ppl on this site were pro-anabolics but i thank you guys for being honest and i really do have the same mind set but the thing is fellas the males in my city, school , and general area have been going through this trend of using Tren haha....every average joe is getting 10-15 bigger..........honestly if you guys can concretely say that one cycle does irreversible damage than i wont bother but from research on the internet many agree one cycle isnt too bad but then again im very inexp in this topic and your opinions are greatly valued thanks guys

[edmen2]

dude trust me every person here, and there are alot, said they were only gonna do 1 cycle. its not gonna happen. as long as u can gain naturally hold off. when u plateau then u can look at alternatives and u will get huge!

[Tyler694]

dude trust me every person here, and there are alot, said they were only gonna do 1 cycle. its not gonna happen. as long as u can gain naturally hold off. when u plateau then u can look at alternatives and u will get huge!

Yep.. Doing just one cycle is pretty much impossible, lol.

[SAMS_DAD]

yah, the 1 cycle only statement... Trust me, i hated my first cycle due to the injections, but after pct and time off your eager to start the next one. Reason being; great gains, high sex drive, healthy lifestyle due to strict diet which in turn provides more energy throughout the day, and just seeing results in such a short period of time. The negatives for me, ACNE.
21 is a young age to start (i was 30). Build naturally w/a good diet plan laid out and if you hit a plateau then i'd look/research more into cycling. A first cycle should always be a test only cycle in my opinion and see how your body reacts to it, stay away from tren even though everyone around town is using it, your not ready for tren yet.

[hardgainer1]

im gonna have to agree with the board, 21 is too young brother, dont mess up your system you arent biologically ready

[dma-n01]

For what its worth I'm 22. Was retarded started at 16. Just wait dood. Have. Done 5 cycles since then, never the same. yea I got.big, but its more then that hold off. Get disciplined. God forbid u do what i did n put on some nice gains n then realize while Ur at the gym all Ur doods r at the bar, then tht Becomes the thing to do. Hold off man

[JasonT]

OP, let's see a pic of that 6-8%....

[fattywarbucks]

wow this is a surprise i thought ppl on this site were pro-anabolics but i thank you guys for being honest and i really do have the same mind set but the thing is fellas the males in my city, school , and general area have been going through this trend of using Tren haha....every average joe is getting 10-15 bigger..........honestly if you guys can concretely say that one cycle does irreversible damage than i wont bother but from research on the internet many agree one cycle isnt too bad but then again im very inexp in this topic and your opinions are greatly valued thanks guys

Tren? Do you even care if the side effects are reversible. Done improperly, tren can give you. Wonderfully limp penis and grow you a set of tits that will not only make the smaller ladies jealous, but just may lactate as well. Tren is not for beginners and should NEVER BE A TREND.