Combatting Tren Ace prolactin - prami

[MMAngry]

Hey Guys. I'm running a Tren Ace 6-8 week cycle w/out Test. Please do not lecture me on running Tren w/out Test- I've done the research and do not feel it's necessary. My libido is strong and not experiencing any ED. I'm on my 3rd week, only 2cc's a week (50 mg EOD), so most will agree it's conservative dosage. It's still a bit early but I'm starting to see some nice results. I'm doing this cycle to lean out... I'm already a big guy, just want more definition- not looking for size.

However I think I'm seeing slight gyno and want to address this now. I planned on running Clomid/Nolva PCT but I think I need to pick up some Prami. I've read a bit and from what I see Nolva/Letro is used to combat gyno issues from Test, not Tren. It looks like for Tren sides people use Caber, Prami or Bromo? I can't remember what Bromo is right now...

Anyways, I don't want to make a huge deal out of this.. it's not noticeable or bothersome thus far... should I pick up some Prami? It doesn't look like Caber is as accessible as Prami. I've read that Prami comes with sides as well.

What kind of dosage should I be looking at? What kind of sides come from taking Prami?

Also, I was thinking of throwing some Clen in towards the end .. thoughts?

-Thanks in advance

[redz]

That's a crappy cycle.

[Igifuno]

You'll need clomid/letro/tamox (or nolv). Read how to administer in the PCT forum..

Good luck,

IG

[MMAngry]

You'll need clomid/letro/tamox (or nolv). Read how to administer in the PCT forum..

Good luck,

IG

I'm taking Nolva/Clomid PCT... Tamox isn't necessary unless you already have gyno issues, from what I've read.

[Igifuno]

Tamox = Nolvadex. Same thing.

[MMAngry]

That's a crappy cycle.

Not all of us are wannabe bodybuilders.

There's no reason to take Test if you don't have libido issues. Or, I should at least say, you don't have to take Test. A Tren only cycle is certainly feasible.. especially if you're not looking for major gains and just want to lean out a bit.

Anyways, thanks for the insightful post.

[MMAngry]

Tamox = Nolvadex. Same thing.

my bad... I'm getting my drugs jumbled... you didn't say anything about Prami..which is why I made this post.

[Igifuno]

that's cool.. don't know much about prami.. good luck though.

[Mooseman33]

Not all of us are wannabe bodybuilders.

There's no reason to take Test if you don't have libido issues. Or, I should at least say, you don't have to take Test. A Tren only cycle is certainly feasible.. especially if you're not looking for major gains and just want to lean out a bit.

Anyways, thanks for the insightful post.

so wrong my friend.

i dont even have the energy to tell you why, nor do i think it will matter.
u have that"i know what im doing" attitude, and son, you are way wrong on this one...

but i will tell u that if u think u have gyno coming, get caber/bromo/prami asap man...

[wharton]

so wrong my friend.

i dont even have the energy to tell you why, nor do i think it will matter.
u have that"i know what im doing" attitude, and son, you are way wrong on this one...

but i will tell u that if u think u have gyno coming, get caber/bromo/prami asap man...

X2 tren alone is bad and the reasons your taking is just sad. diet and cardio is what you need. i would say get caber asap tp combat prolactin.

[CMPD213]

Not all of us are wannabe bodybuilders.

There's no reason to take Test if you don't have libido issues. Or, I should at least say, you don't have to take Test. A Tren only cycle is certainly feasible.. especially if you're not looking for major gains and just want to lean out a bit.

Anyways, thanks for the insightful post.

Like wharton said, get some caber and that will take care of the prolactin gyno.

But, why are you taking tren if you just want to lean out a bit? There are much better ways to get lean out there. ECA, clen, oh and most importantly DIET and CARDIO.

[Tyler694]

Run prami at .125mg ED for 4-7 days, then up it to around .25mg ED. You probably won't need to go any higher.



PS: Add some test..

[frank4242]

i thought that tren A wasnt supose to give you gyno? and how do u know its coming?

[MMAngry]

so wrong my friend.

i dont even have the energy to tell you why, nor do i think it will matter.
u have that"i know what im doing" attitude, and son, you are way wrong on this one...

but i will tell u that if u think u have gyno coming, get caber/bromo/prami asap man...

I don't mean to have a cocky attitude.. I shouldn't ...

I've spoken to many people that have run Tren by itself and gotten results. I've also spoken to people said that Test inhibits Tren gains. IDK... it's my first cycle and I'm going with low dosage. Like I said in the OP, I'm seeing results.

Are you saying I need to run all 3 of those? I was gonna pick up some Prami 'cuz it's sold right here on the sponsor website.. I'd have to look around for the others.

Anyways, since you seem confident about Test, I'd like to hear (if you have the energy) why it's so important to run Test with all AAS drugs, and more importantly with Tren. (Like I said I'm not having libido issues).

[MMAngry]

i thought that tren A wasnt supose to give you gyno? and how do u know its coming?

I read that it can, but not for the same reasons as Test. It's because of prolactin.... which I'm gonna research more right now.

My nips aren't sensitive but seem a bit "different." Nothing drastic really.. but I'm just not sure and want to prevent gyno.

[MMAngry]

Like wharton said, get some caber and that will take care of the prolactin gyno.

But, why are you taking tren if you just want to lean out a bit? There are much better ways to get lean out there. ECA, clen, oh and most importantly DIET and CARDIO.

I do diet and cardio.. I'm ok adding some mass but not interested in water weight from lets say Deca... I thought about adding clen to the end of the cycle.

[MMAngry]

X2 tren alone is bad and the reasons your taking is just sad. diet and cardio is what you need. i would say get caber asap tp combat prolactin.

there's vets on this board that have said otherwise so you shouldn't think you know everything.

tren alone isn't necessarily bad.. I've done research.

[MMAngry]

I see no hyperlinks for Bromo.. have no idea what it is...

Caber and Prami are both sold through the web sponsor... Caber is little pricey...

Sounds like I can run just Prami, or do people run both? maybe it's a matter of preference.. I'm thinking of picking up Prami and trying that....then run Nolva/Clomid PCT.

[MMAngry]

Run prami at .125mg ED for 4-7 days, then up it to around .25mg ED. You probably won't need to go any higher.



PS: Add some test..

LOL I'm not adding test.. I've spoken to vets IRL that said it's not necessary. I think these boards are over-run with hard users (bodybuilders) that are so used to running complex stacks they think Test is an automatic component of the stack. Of course.. I could be wrong.

Anyways...so I should run Prami while on Tren then stop when I stop Tren.. then do PCT. Is it ok to run Prami while on PCT as well?

thanks

[Mooseman33]

please post 1 name of a "vet" on this board who told you that u dont need test with tren ace?

who told you it was a good idea?

i really want to see this cause i dont believe you.

[MMAngry]

please post 1 name of a "vet" on this board who told you that u dont need test with tren ace?

who told you it was a good idea?

i really want to see this cause i dont believe you.

http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.p...3&postcount=19

read that post... then skim through the rest.. there's 2 other posters who say you can run tren w/out test.

based on the info in that thread, the only reason to run test with tren is to help with libido issues.. which I don't have a problem with.

If you're so sure that Test with Tren is a must, I'd like to hear your reasons.

I'm still looking for insight on Prami..

[FunkLord]

Prami will work at least as well as caber for reducing prolactin levels.

It's available from ar-r.

[JiffyPop]

http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.p...3&postcount=19

read that post... then skim through the rest.. there's 2 other posters who say you can run tren w/out test.

based on the info in that thread, the only reason to run test with tren is to help with libido issues.. which I don't have a problem with.

If you're so sure that Test with Tren is a must, I'd like to hear your reasons.

I'm still looking for insight on Prami..

sounds like he is saying he needs to run over 250mgs of test.......am i reading this wrong????

[Tyler694]

I am not a "hardcore bodybuilder" as you speak, and I do not run any overly complex stacks. I just run test as the base to every cycle. Hell, some cycles I still run are test only..

[redz]

I've also spoken to people said that Test inhibits Tren gains

Seriously you come on here asking for opinions and spit this garbage out. If you believe that quote you are a moron. If anything there is synergy between them.

[gymnerd]

Look, you need to run atleast 150mg- 200mg of test a wk its not good for your body to be without test end of story. Its stupid not to run some test, no offense but it is!!

EDIT: as far as Prami goes it works great at reducing prolactin sides better than anything else IMO but this shit has more sides than you can shake a stick at some people just cannot run the stuff me being one of them.