Which aas is the faster muscle builder?

**std4** · 05-01-2010, 02:38 AM

From your experience which aas puts the most muscle in minimum amount of time - drol, dbol , test prop, tren ace or other? please share your thoughts and experience

**Matt** · 05-01-2010, 03:49 AM

Tren e for sure...

**KimboHalfSlice** · 05-01-2010, 04:52 AM

I think when everyone starts to consider steroids , the first question that comes into their head is exactly what you asked:

"Which steroid makes you as big as possible as fast as possible?".

Many people will say Trenbolone Enanthate .

...but you need to sit down and have a think about what side effects you're willing to put up with.

If you'll take anything to get as big as possible, then sure go with the Tren E. But this drug is WELL KNOWN for its psychological effects.

If you're worried about how you'll treat your girlfriend/wife/family, then a better choice might be Test, Deca & Dbol.

**Mr.Rose** · 05-01-2010, 05:01 AM

There's no difference between Tren E and Tren A or even Tren H, for faster acting, Tren A is best, it will kick in in the first week, where as Tren E won't.

***t-gunz*** · 05-01-2010, 05:39 AM

^^ yeah i was thinking why people say tren E not tren A ? wouldnt they both be the same?

**Matt** · 05-01-2010, 05:55 AM

Originally Posted by t-gunz

^^ yeah i was thinking why people say tren E not tren A ? wouldnt they both be the same?

I said tren e because thats the only tren ive used...

I believe the op is asking for personal experience. Yes tren a would be faster acting but ive never used it...

**taiboxa** · 05-01-2010, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.Rose

There's no difference between Tren E and Tren A or even Tren H, for faster acting, Tren A is best, it will kick in in the first week, where as Tren E won't.

yes it will.. infact you can frontload and have tren sides by the 2nd night on TrenE.. its just a slower rate of release but its still released..

**Mr.Rose** · 05-01-2010, 06:59 AM

You are more than likely right tai, but i was referring to ester length, but we all know things are different on paper then in real life. Any ester will start to break down from the minute it is injected, but shorter esters will have it done so faster.

**Hazard** · 05-01-2010, 10:17 AM

EQ hands down!

Yes i'm joking..... bwahahaha

~Haz~

**dece870717** · 05-01-2010, 10:24 AM

Test Prop 50mg/EOD or Test E 250mg/week with...

Tren Ace 100-150mg/ED
Dbol 25mg/ED
Anadrol 50mg/ED

Ya, that'll hit the spot.

**Mr.Rose** · 05-01-2010, 10:33 AM

No, Dbol only cycle... get jacked like my cousin benny and he is only 16!!

**nyspqr** · 05-01-2010, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by dece870717

Test Prop 50mg/EOD or Test E 250mg/week with...

Tren Ace 100-150mg/ED
Dbol 25mg/ED
Anadrol 50mg/ED

Ya, that'll hit the spot.

nice dude.

**nyspqr** · 05-01-2010, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.Rose

No, Dbol only cycle... get jacked like my cousin benny and he is only 16!!

Thanks sucks man, 16 is too young. Hope he recovers quick.

**Mr.Rose** · 05-01-2010, 10:52 AM

You do realize i was joking?, I can't tell through the monitor :P

**powerliftmike** · 05-01-2010, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Hazard

EQ hands down!

Haz, primo is where its at bro. I gained 50lbs in 2 weeks!! ALL MUSCLE: forget about supportive tissue, fat, water and all those things like you must gain also for muscle. This one is pure muscle.

**KimboHalfSlice** · 05-01-2010, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by dece870717

Test Prop 50mg/EOD or Test E 250mg/week with...

Tren Ace 100-150mg/ED
Dbol 25mg/ED
Anadrol 50mg/ED

Ya, that'll hit the spot.

How come you would run the Test E so low? I would have thought the minimum would be 500mg.

I myself take about 800mg of Test E per week when I'm cycling... if I go to a gram then I sleep 14 hours a day.

**powerliftmike** · 05-01-2010, 11:00 AM

In regard to the original poster..do you want to gain weight the fastest?? For leaner gains diet and time come into play. At least several months of test use.

For just fast weight dbol and drol probably some of the best. Tren is one of the strongest things out there, but I never gained hardly any weight from it. (some of this is body composition changes netting out weight gain) Mainly hardens up and is really good for strength.

**forte** · 05-01-2010, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.Rose

There's no difference between Tren E and Tren A or even Tren H, for faster acting, Tren A is best, it will kick in in the first week, where as Tren E won't.

you are wright about kicking in the first week, together with all the nasty sides associated with tren a.
and so i stick to the topic, yes tren e is the king.

**taiboxa** · 05-01-2010, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by powerliftmike

Haz, primo is where its at bro. I gained 50lbs in 2 weeks!! ALL MUSCLE: forget about supportive tissue, fat, water and all those things like you must gain also for muscle. This one is pure muscle.

x2.. primo all the way

**FranciscoG** · 05-01-2010, 11:32 AM

Food

**dece870717** · 05-01-2010, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by ErectileTissue

How come you would run the Test E so low? I would have thought the minimum would be 500mg.

I myself take about 800mg of Test E per week when I'm cycling... if I go to a gram then I sleep 14 hours a day.

I recommend it to everyone I've ever had run Tren because from my own and multiple peoples experiences, you get noticeably less aggressive/irritable and overall less sides. There is NO reason to have high amounts of Test if your using something as strong as tren, cause tren is going to be doing all the work, why waste money on buying a bunch more test when you don't need it. Test at 250mg/week is already over what your body would make naturally and will put you over the high range for Testosterone levels .

**forte** · 05-01-2010, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by powerliftmike

Haz, primo is where its at bro. I gained 50lbs in 2 weeks!! ALL MUSCLE: forget about supportive tissue, fat, water and all those things like you must gain also for muscle. This one is pure muscle.

what dosage did you use, if you don't mined asking?
was that a primo only cycle?

**Mr.Rose** · 05-01-2010, 11:41 AM

Insulin all the way

**taiboxa** · 05-01-2010, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by forte

what dosage did you use, if you don't mined asking?
was that a primo only cycle?

he is so joking about primo.. you'd have better luck w/ EQ than primo.. and EQ doesnt even do anything

**forte** · 05-01-2010, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by dece870717

I recommend it to everyone I've ever had run Tren because from my own and multiple peoples experiences, you get noticeably less aggressive/irritable and overall less sides. There is NO reason to have high amounts of Test if your using something as strong as tren, cause tren is going to be doing all the work, why waste money on buying a bunch more test when you don't need it. Test at 250mg/week is already over what your body would make naturally and will put you over the high range for Testosterone levels.

i personally never go lower than 500 mg/week on test, with or w/o tren . i think 250 is too low and you won't see any results and become very frustrated because you lost you time and money. but that's just my personal opinion.

**henchmofo** · 05-01-2010, 11:47 AM

50lbs in 2 weeks lol

i can't even see that being possible in 12 week cycle.

anyway i would go with tren . but this has to be stacked with a form of test. (personally)

**Hazard** · 05-01-2010, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by powerliftmike

Haz, primo is where its at bro. I gained 50lbs in 2 weeks!! ALL MUSCLE: forget about supportive tissue, fat, water and all those things like you must gain also for muscle. This one is pure muscle.

LOL

OMFG Imagine an EQ and Primo stack!?!?!?!? People would KNOW I was on steroids fo sho!

~Haz~

**forte** · 05-01-2010, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

he is so joking about primo.. you'd have better luck w/ EQ than primo.. and EQ doesnt even do anything

yea i was wondering about that. never done primo and i thought maybe you can have some good results on extreme dosage.

**Matt** · 05-01-2010, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by henchmofo

50lbs in 2 weeks lol

i can't even see that being possible in 12 week cycle.

anyway i would go with tren. but this has to be stacked with a form of test. (personally)

As already said, that was a joke....

The trouble with these threads is you get all the youngsters or newbies to aas thinking that these are the compounds they must use....

We must stress that most of these compounds carry the worst sides with them....

**taiboxa** · 05-01-2010, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by forte

yea i was wondering about that. never done primo and i thought maybe you can have some good results on extreme dosage.

DOOD you cant fit enough oil in a syringe to get the doses you need w/ primo..

**taiboxa** · 05-01-2010, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

LOL

OMFG Imagine an EQ and Primo stack!?!?!?!? People would KNOW I was on steroids fo sho!

~Haz~

Hi, you must be new..

**Hazard** · 05-01-2010, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

Hi, you must be new..

If there is anything that AR has taught me over these last 6 years..... it's that EQ works.....

No matter how much I run and little results I get from it..... EVERYONE ELSE benefits hugely from it..... that is.... except for you and marcus too

Guess the 3 of us are just nuts.....

~Haz~

**forte** · 05-01-2010, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by 007

As already said, that was a joke....

The trouble with these threads is you get all the youngsters or newbies to aas thinking that these are the compounds they must use....

We must stress that most of these compounds carry the worst sides with them....

hey bro, if somebody is new to this forum not necessarily means that its a newbie or youngster. i am 32 and i been seriously training for 17 years. generally, sometimes just have to be careful when joke about certain things.

**Matt** · 05-01-2010, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by forte

hey bro, if somebody is new to this forum not necessarily means that its a newbie or youngster. i am 32 and i been seriously training for 17 years. generally, sometimes just have to be careful when joke about certain thinks.

As i said, new to ass.

**CanYouDigIt** · 05-01-2010, 12:21 PM

I say DBOL or & anadrol + tren E / test E ....

you need one to stimulate your sexual side, then you need one that makes you like a wild animal + build muscles, then you need one that bloats you like a son of a... and builds muscle.

RAWR!~

Oh Quote :::

Originally Posted by forte
hey bro, if somebody is new to this forum not necessarily means that its a newbie or youngster. i am 32 and i been seriously training for 17 years. generally, sometimes just have to be careful when joke about certain thinks. (K is far from G) <-- huge fingers?

**forte** · 05-01-2010, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by 007

As i said, new to ass.

not very new but you made a point. well that is why we are here on this forum so we can educate an learn ourselves, on top of what we already supposedly know.

**forte** · 05-01-2010, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by CanYouDigIt

I say DBOL or & anadrol + tren E / test E ....

you need one to stimulate your sexual side, then you need one that makes you like a wild animal + build muscles, then you need one that bloats you like a son of a... and builds muscle.

RAWR!~

Oh Quote :::

Originally Posted by forte
hey bro, if somebody is new to this forum not necessarily means that its a newbie or youngster. i am 32 and i been seriously training for 17 years. generally, sometimes just have to be careful when joke about certain thinks. (K is far from G) <-- huge fingers?

small fingers but esl

**Black** · 05-01-2010, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by 007

as i said, new to ass.

hahahahahha!

**forte** · 05-01-2010, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Dante Diamond

hahahahahha!

i assumed that was just a typing mistake if not he is the biggest ass

**Bloodsaw** · 05-01-2010, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by forte

i personally never go lower than 500 mg/week on test, with or w/o tren. i think 250 is too low and you won't see any results and become very frustrated because you lost you time and money. but that's just my personal opinion.

250mg a week puts you about 2 - 3 x over the normal range, so it is next to impossible not to get results ( maybe very small though ) with a new user