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[Abull78]

Alright, well I finally decided to go play in the deep end of the pool. I started back at the gym for 8 weeks. I got a bit stronger and put on a few pounds. Then brought in the AS. I am in my third week now.

Andropen 275 5ccweekly
Decabol 3ccweekly
Boldabol 5ccweekly
Dianabol 50mg oral daily

That along with eating 5500 calories a day. I am keeping my diet where it should be and hitting the gym on a 6 day on 1 off, and when i am there it is balls out until I am heading for the shower.

I started at 195 3 weeks ago, yesterday the scale showed on the heavier side of 209. I am not getting fat, obviously I can see a little water on me but, thats okay at the moment.

My question is with this agressive stack and the gains I have already gotten where will I be in 9 weeks???

My gains are beyond what my trainer thought they would be and for the past 4 days everytime I get on the scale I am atleast a full pound heavier.

[Matt]

What was the thinking behind this cycle???

Were you advised to run this cycle in this way???

[j4ever41]

water retention

[Abull78]

Thinking was,

Andropen- Obviously the meat and potatos portion, gain good quality muscle throughout the cycle

Equopoise- backing up the Andropen to add to its gains

Dbol- water retention is a downer but the thinking here was to keep my joints healthy as I go up in the weight I am lifting.


Thoughts? Contradictions? I am here for help in my quest, anything anyone has to offer would be greatly appreciated.

Im not a fan of wasted time so if there is something that should be done differently let me know.

[edmen2]

if i was ur dad i would ground u for 2 weeks! u havent told us anything 5 cc? we need mg/ml just because dbol causes water retention doesnt mean it good for ur joints. u have alot to learn if i was u i would stop do pct and educate urself! u blew this one!

[Abull78]

Stats,

31
6 feet tall
209lbs
I have been in the gym off and on for years, recently gone back for the past 6 months just to stay trim, started first cycle 3 weeks ago.
bf% unsure, i can see my abs though

[edmen2]

u havent said how long ur cycle is 5cc could be anything we need to know the mg per cc! dbol ive not known alot of people to associate with joint pain although many people complain of severe lower back pumps! what do u want to acheive with eq? do u have pct lined up. u may be impatient but u will regret jumping in to fast!

[Abull78]

if i was ur dad i would ground u for 2 weeks! u havent told us anything 5 cc? we need mg/ml just because dbol causes water retention doesnt mean it good for ur joints. u have alot to learn if i was u i would stop do pct and educate urself! u blew this one!

Thanks for the input,

Andropen 250mg
EQ 250mg
Deca 150mg

[Abull78]

I stated that the cycle was 12 weeks. Obviously Dbol wasnt chosen because it cause water retention. Dbol helps with Joint injury prevention as it doesnt have a drying effect, as stated by many members on this site as well as others.

If I didnt provide you with the info you needed in order to provide me with your input just let me know what I left out.

[edmen2]

ok deca my fast eye was tellin me dbol! looking better now how long do u plan on doin this and is ur pct lined up?

[Abull78]

PCT is lined up with Clomid and HCG.

[Abull78]

PCT is lined up with Clomid and HCG.

[Abull78]

i made an error also,
deca is 150mg
dbol is 50mg orally every other day

[Abull78]

007,

yes i was advised to run the stack this way by my trainer. I also did quite a bit of reading to verify what he was telling me. If there is anything that you can weigh in on I would greatly appreciate it.

[edmen2]

u cant expect to know how much ur gonna gain the dbol will cause alot of water retention very fast probably explaining ur pound a day gain! ive never been a fan of multi estered tests but it will still do the job! ive always know eq to start to kick around wk 10. so do u really want it in a 12 wk cycle. deca now is excellent for the joints but it caused my b/p to sky rocket! if u start to show sides ur not gonna know which compound is causing thus the patience portion of our world! ur cycle sounds ok but u could have done the same just startin with test!

[Abull78]

hmmmmm,

Then would keeping the EQ in and using it to bridge be a good idea?

[edmen2]

im not gonna tell u what to do but i personally would go 15 wks with the test and 14 with the eq!