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Thread: 2 on 2 off, would like to gain 10lbs need some guidance

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    2 on 2 off, would like to gain 10lbs need some guidance

    i would like to start off by saying this is my first post around here and am interesting in doing a 2 week on 2 week off deal as i am thinking about my first cycle, i have done alot of research as well as have talked to numerous aas users, and have also seen some idiots out there, blow up on dina only to loose all their gains a couple months later.

    A little bit about myself first.

    I am 22, am 6'0 weight at 175 have been training for around 2 years, but have always been in fast moving sports such as motocross and such, i am in pretty decent shape now with less then 10% bf my workout looks like as followed

    Shoulders
    Bi/tri's
    legs
    OFF
    Back
    Chest
    OFF

    I try to do many compound exercises, high weight 8-10 reps and have been progressively getting stronger without a doubt over the last year espacially since i have sorted out a diet that works well for me. in the last 6 months i have put on a solid 10lbs of muscle, but i feel like i have hit a wall, i just cannot gain more mass, however week by week i am still getting stronger even if it is just by a little amount.

    my diet is pretty good, here is a quick breakdown it does vary a little but is not unhealthy.

    morning -

    eggs, banana, apple, tall glass of milk, and a shake, and normal vitimans

    11am - 1 - 2 grilled chicken breasts

    2pm - a big sandwich or sub on wheat / multi-grain bread, with turkey, ham, cheese

    post workout 4pm - another protine shake with oats, peanut butter, a banana or yogurt, and amino acids

    5pm dinner, usually chicken, beef or a combination with pasta, and a big salad

    8pm usually hungry by then, either another sandwich with meat, or peanut butter, or some more chicken, w/e im in the mood for.

    11pm sometimes a banana or some healthy snack, usually fruit

    i get over 8hrs of sleep a night.

    i would be considered a first time user, i have an extreamly fast matabolism and am considered a very hard gainer, i am not asking for a ton of weight, i would like a solid 10lbs out a of a cycle, just to kind of add some bulk because i feel my strenght does not match my size, i am on the skinny side, and would be happy with a 10lb gain.

    I like the looks of var, but ive heard some bad sides, i do not want to bloat like on dina, and test seems like a viable option...i am kind of on the fence, as i would like to gain mass without the bloated look, i dont want to screw up the body i already have, i feel as if a 2 on 2 off might be better for someone like me because a long term commitment would be hard right now, and i do not want to put my body through the long PCT of a typical cycle, i already have my anti-e figured out and will be nolva, or clomid,

    would like the cycle to look like this

    ON
    ON

    Nolvadex, 20/mg
    off

    ON
    ON

    Nolvadex 20/mg
    off - possibly 10/mg nolva

    any help would be appriciated!

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    Why would you do 2 on 2 off? you're not gonna achieve any degree of success with that. Concentration of what you're taking is gonna peak the moment you'll stop taking it. also your body will NOT recover during this 2 weeks because the remaining exogenous testesterone takes about 2 weeks to leave your system...


    Also, test is much more harsh on the sides than var....i really dont think youve researched enough.

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    well this is why i am asking for advice, i have read a great deal, and i realize that test has more harsh sides, then var, the main reason i am looking to stay away from var is it is more seemed to be used as a cutting tool although some people have had good success from bulking while on it, i have also talked to people personally who have done 2 on 2 off, and have seen great results, what my goal is, is to do a decent cycle, but do not want a 12 week cycle, mabey a half of cycle so recovery is less harsh on my body, i do realize gains will be diminished by doing this...again just looking for some advice not trying to jump into anything by any means. it will be a couple more months before i would attempt a cycle, as i want to make sure i will be able to commit at least 6 months of dedication to it.

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    I can't think of any steroids or any circumstances with which 2 weeks on/2 weeks off would be a good idea. in reality, that's absurd. you should take some time to read our educational threads (especially diet), do some research, then post when you're ready.

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    I strongly suggest you read the stickies(diet section to)
    I also strongly reccomend that you do not run that cycle.

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    Don't do 2 weeks on / off. That's horrible. Run a good strong cycle....research a little bit more before you start.

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    appriciate the advice, i will be staying away from this and doing some more reading / talking to people (who are more educated) about a good cycle, like i said i am NOT trying to jump into anything and would rather learn and understand 110% which i intend to do.

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    At 6' and 175lbs, 10%bf, you haven't come anywhere near your natural potential. You've hit a wall because either your diet and or training are sub par. AAS will not compensate for short comings in diet or training. You should be able to reach 200+ without AAS. If you can't, you're not doing it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dthbypsi View Post
    i have also talked to people personally who have done 2 on 2 off, and have seen great results.
    This interests me...can you find out what kind of drugs they were taking, and what their measure of success is? (what are great results)

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