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    confused

    I was hoping I could get some good feedback on some questions i have for first time cycle... i assure you i have read all the threads pertaining to newbies etc.. i am 23 years old and have conteplated using gear several times however always opt out. i am about 5"10 , 180 lbs.. i want to use test e with eq..however was wondering if for first time just the test e is sufficient..i have been working out since i was a teenager..and have a great workout/ diet regimen. i am aware that those r essintial things to have prior to using...i was also told first cycle is best so if thats true would it be ideal to take the test e with eq?

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    EQ would be a waste of money. Test should be plenty.

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    thank you... what mg what you suggest? 500?

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    For newbie it's ok to run test alone but stackin with dbol would be ideal with better result.

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    use bdol as a kick start?or throughout whole cycle

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    You don't need Dbol. It will help add a bunch of weight and strength initially, but the results won't be much different once all is said and done (you can only gain so much per cycle). Plus you will have taxed your body more.

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    IF you do choose to use dbol though, I would kick start with it. Like said though, test alone will do you good. No less, than 400mg / week. Preferably 500mg / week though.

    What gauge needles will you be drawing/pinning with?

    What PCT plans do you have?

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    well i was going to use whats recconmended on the links provided in the newbie section. i had seen a model of what to use with test being the example on there but im glad u asked because i wanted to get opinions on what is neccassary to start the cycle and finish..

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    I have nolvadex and 23 guage 1" needles.. and i want to start asap.. please someone let me know what is neccessary ro run during cycle.. i want to start the test but want know what i have to take along with it not just pct.. i read on newbies section that it reccommended to take nolvadex and clomid during cycle.. if i am just running 500 mg of test a week do i have to abide by that reccomendation

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    Get hCG and run that alongside the test (250IU 2X/week is good). Adding an AI like Aromasin is also a good idea. It helps minimize hpta suppression, keeps down bloat, and prevents gyno issues (in short). Unlike Adex, it has a positive effect on IGF-1 and doesn't hurt your lipids.
    For PCT, I'd do 20mg of Nolva and 50mg Clomid for 4 weeks.
    Last edited by Bonaparte; 05-06-2010 at 01:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by illmaticc11 View Post
    I have nolvadex and 23 guage 1" needles.. and i want to start asap.. please someone let me know what is neccessary ro run during cycle.. i want to start the test but want know what i have to take along with it not just pct.. i read on newbies section that it reccommended to take nolvadex and clomid during cycle.. if i am just running 500 mg of test a week do i have to abide by that reccomendation
    Do your test for 12 weeks, then after 2 weeks so at week 14 start your nolva etc for PCT

    Keep an AI (Arimidex) on hand just incase of issues (sore nipples, bloat etc) use it at 0.5 per day if nessesery

    Good luck man

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    Yea its always good to keep it to a minimum on your first brother. There is always time for stacking down the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by illmaticc11 View Post
    I have nolvadex and 23 guage 1" needles.. and i want to start asap.. please someone let me know what is neccessary ro run during cycle.. i want to start the test but want know what i have to take along with it not just pct.. i read on newbies section that it reccommended to take nolvadex and clomid during cycle.. if i am just running 500 mg of test a week do i have to abide by that reccomendation
    little big to inject to withdraw its ok 25guage will be my preference.

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