Prop question

**fattywarbucks** · 05-05-2010, 05:18 AM

As I continue cutting to begin my midjune early july cycle start, I began to wonder, is there any reason not to do prop for my first cycle?
I couldn't care less about eod injections
Id rather be shut down for 8 rather than 12
I can mix steril grape seed oil for the shot pain
Plus I figure, since I don't know how ill react, a short halflife is was smarter
Is that okay for a safe first timer

I would still keep the Ldex on hand, but only use if needed, rather than run along like I was planning with enth

I was planning 12 wks of 500mg of enth
What would you recommend for prop

**ghettoboyd** · 05-05-2010, 05:42 AM

its ok to do as long as you know that eod injections are not a problem....the problem with this is that because youve never tryed any injections you really dont know this as fact....i would still go with the test e as a first cycle so you can see how just 2 inject per week effect you....and as for shutdown, there will be no difference imho...eather way you will be shutdown...

**fattywarbucks** · 05-05-2010, 05:52 AM

I'm not at all squeamish...at all
And I figured, any prop pain I could just grapeseed away

Is there anything else that can really go wrong with my injections
Obviously cleanliness will be beyond strict

I guess injection spot rotation could be a bitch
In theory id use a glute and thigh 4 spot rotation, but I'm not yet sure of shot reaction in those locations..makes sense

**ghettoboyd** · 05-05-2010, 05:58 AM

ive found with prop its not the injection pain thats a bitch, its the few days of stiffness/soreness the few days after that suck...it made training hard for me the first few weeks but i work around it buy injecting in many places and spreading the pain around....a 4 spot rotation wont work for me, i use 6 spots and its working well....good luck whatever you do....

**fattywarbucks** · 05-05-2010, 06:16 AM

Yeah, I can see how the lingering effects would suck.

Did you 1to1 cut it with grapeseed oil or shoot it straight.

**Bossman** · 05-05-2010, 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by fattywarbucks

I'm not at all squeamish...at all
And I figured, any prop pain I could just grapeseed away

Is there anything else that can really go wrong with my injections
Obviously cleanliness will be beyond strict

I guess injection spot rotation could be a bitch
In theory id use a glute and thigh 4 spot rotation, but I'm not yet sure of shot reaction in those locations..makes sense

This didn't work for me and I know several others it did nothing for. If you search, there are countless threads on prop pain. You will have pain from test e and c also. Prop hurts experienced AAS users, Test C and E hurt unexperienced users.

**ghettoboyd** · 05-05-2010, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by fattywarbucks

Yeah, I can see how the lingering effects would suck.

Did you 1to1 cut it with grapeseed oil or shoot it straight.

i shot it straight....like i said it dosent hurt while injecting for me its the after effects....

**fattywarbucks** · 05-05-2010, 06:53 AM

you guys win. Enth it is

Thanks for the input

**calgarian** · 05-05-2010, 07:29 AM

look if u can bear the pain test p is ur buddy for the first time(assuming its ur first cycle) and if it is not ur first cycle test-e.

**fattywarbucks** · 05-05-2010, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by calgarian

look if u can bear the pain test p is ur buddy for the first time(assuming its ur first cycle) and if it is not ur first cycle test-e.

Yup. First cycle.

**Tyler694** · 05-05-2010, 11:22 AM

I ran prop before enanth or cyp. Worked great for me! It's all personal preference..

**edmen2** · 05-05-2010, 11:27 AM

the only draw back is injection frequency and prop pain! it can scar a newb for life but ok for ur first!

**calgarian** · 05-05-2010, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by fattywarbucks

Yup. First cycle.

i would use test prop the only reason if u get sides it will be in and out of your system I did it ED shot in my first cycle and it was HELL i wont lie but I live through it. just my 2 cents u can have it for free.

**Bossman** · 05-05-2010, 11:38 AM

I only use short esthers anymore. I love the fact that they start working quick. But, so many people have a tough time and post on here about it. If you can tough it out like Calgarian, you'll probably like it. The first week or two are the toughest, then your muscles will start to get used to the injections.

**fattywarbucks** · 05-05-2010, 12:29 PM

Alright, so here is my ultimate, I'm a pvssy but I wanna do prop list
Not that Ill take these measures, bc i m way to tough...yeah, that's it
1) grapeseed oil 1/1, may work may not
2)stay loose during injecttions
3)use atleast a 6 site rotation
4)warm before inject
5)massage inject spot
6)warm compress to help disolve solids
7)man up, stop making lists

Oh, and i ve heard that pumps may be a bit worse with prop so ill be downing 3 gms of taurine ed.