What steroid should i take?

[fjordhammer]

I'm soon 17 years old, 1,86 high, 72-73 kg. I have a problem gaining weight, I'm kind of skinny, pretty muscular though.

I'm looking for a steroid that's not too powerful, that fit's my needs. I want to grow bigger, as my muscles still stay marked. if i could take it orally it would be the definite best thing, but if injecting it is a better option i'd rather do that.

how much will it cost me?
should i consider taking smaller doses if i don't want the full effect?
anything especially i should look out for/do considering this steroid?
and most important, what steroid should i use?

Thanks

[edmen2]

u r way to young for steroids ! just get ur diet in check and workout. steroids are linked to premature closing of the growth plates. in other words they can stunt ur growth and thats just one of the bad things that can happen. just be patient and wait til ur old enough!

[edmen2]

I'm soon 17 years old, 1,86 high, 72-73 kg. I have a problem gaining weight, I'm kind of skinny, pretty muscular though.

I'm looking for a steroid that's not too powerful, that fit's my needs. I want to grow bigger, as my muscles still stay marked. if i could take it orally it would be the definite best thing, but if injecting it is a better option i'd rather do that.

how much will it cost me?
should i consider taking smaller doses if i don't want the full effect?
anything especially i should look out for/do considering this steroid?
and most important, what steroid should i use?

Thanks

this was a great post by marcus 300 in an earlier post!
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.

[calgarian]

damn it edmen2 u beat me to it......

to the thread starter u can still look big and massive if you have u diet on spot and hit the gym hard. u havent reach ur natural peak yet steroids will help u with less sides when u have reached ur full potential. Forget about AAS and post ur diet in diet forum.

Also u have to be 18 to join this forum....

[edmen2]

damn it edmen2 u beat me to it......

to the thread starter u can still look big and massive if you have u diet on spot and hit the gym hard. u havent reach ur natural peak yet steroids will help u with less sides when u have reached ur full potential. Forget about AAS and post ur diet in diet forum.

Also u have to be 18 to join this forum....

im dusting off the cobwebs!

[Superhero d-bolman]

and you have to be 21 to not get flamed and blasted by everybody for running a cycle

17 is way too young for a cycle btw.

[calgarian]

and you have to be 21 to not get flamed and blasted by everybody for running a cycle

u do realize why we tell ppl not to use AAS when they are at young age....? its not that i personally take any joy out of doing it but u ask them politely not to take it then a newbie come in say no take it and then the thread go down the drain........last thing i want to do is encourage under age , under developed teen to tell how to take steroids when his natural growth isnt done.

[MaNiCC]

and you have to be 21 to not get flamed and blasted by everybody for running a cycle

I wish people like you would shut the fvk up


to the op

You could still see significant gains without the use of steroids , if you have a well planned diet and workout routine. We recommend avoiding steroids at your age because of the possible consequences it could have on your endocrine system and health in general

On a final note you are too young to register and post on the board

[Superhero d-bolman]

u do realize why we tell ppl not to use AAS when they are at young age....? its not that i personally take any joy out of doing it but u ask them politely not to take it then a newbie come in say no take it and then the thread go down the drain........last thing i want to do is encourage under age , under developed teen to tell how to take steroids when his natural growth isnt done.

To start off I DEFINETLY don't think any 17 year old (mainly because they aren't old enough to make an adult decision like that yet. There is a big difference between 17 and 18 to me.) should take steroids , or anybody below 21. But people have to understand is that people who are 18-20 on this board are real stubborn and whether you say no don't do it or not, they are going to do it... Then people flame the shit out the person and basically refuse to give him any advice whatsoever, which I believe is the same as teaching a college kid whose going to have sex either way to remain abstinent, wtf is that going to do? except possibly **** him up even more.

remember this... a 35 year old female steroid taking amateur powerlifter, who's suffering permanent side effects such as male voice, enlarged clit, etc is gonna receive considerably less flaming then just some 18-20 year old kid whos doing a 500mg test e cycle for 10 weeks. So there is a bias going on in this board.


Also if you wondering what my age is i just turned 20 about half a month ago. I just think its a lil weird that if your only a year below 21, everybody completely shuns you for cycling and refuses to give you any advice whatsoever. However as soon as you turn 21, its like some magical portal to an alternate universe opens up in which no one will flame you as long as you got a good base, diet, etc.

Remember this... if your saying any 18-20 year old shouldn't be taking steroids. Then you have to say no females under any circumstances should take steroids either.

[Ashop]

I'm soon 17 years old, 1,86 high, 72-73 kg. I have a problem gaining weight, I'm kind of skinny, pretty muscular though.

I'm looking for a steroid that's not too powerful, that fit's my needs. I want to grow bigger, as my muscles still stay marked. if i could take it orally it would be the definite best thing, but if injecting it is a better option i'd rather do that.

how much will it cost me?
should i consider taking smaller doses if i don't want the full effect?
anything especially i should look out for/do considering this steroid?
and most important, what steroid should i use?

Thanks

At 17 you need nothing. Just training,,diet and dedication.
Your natural hormone levels are screaming high right now.
Enjoy and reap those benefits while you can.

[Igifuno]

[QUOTE=Superhero d-bolman;5175487] There is a big difference between 17 and 18 to me.)

Really?

[calgarian]

To start off I DEFINETLY don't think any 17 year old (mainly because they aren't old enough to make an adult decision like that yet. There is a big difference between 17 and 18 to me.) should take steroids , or anybody below 21. But people have to understand is that people who are 18-20 on this board are real stubborn and whether you say no don't do it or not, they are going to do it... Then people flame the shit out the person and basically refuse to give him any advice whatsoever, which I believe is the same as teaching a college kid whose going to have sex either way to remain abstinent, wtf is that going to do? except possibly **** him up even more.

remember this... a 35 year old female steroid taking amateur powerlifter, who's suffering permanent side effects such as male voice, enlarged clit, etc is gonna receive considerably less flaming then just some 18-20 year old kid whos doing a 500mg test e cycle for 10 weeks. So there is a bias going on in this board.

Sorry if i sounded like i was encouraging him in my last post i wasn't at all. I just wrote that because it pisses me off that even though your old enough to register on this forum when your 18, you literally cannot ask people for advice on this board.

Also if you wondering what my age is i just turned 20 about half a month ago. I just think its a lil weird that if your only a year below 21, everybody completely shuns you for cycling and refuses to give you any advice whatsoever. However as soon as you turn 21, its like some magical portal to an alternate universe opens up in which no one will flame you as long as you got a good base, diet, etc.

Remember this... if your saying any 18-20 year old shouldn't be taking steroids. Then you have to say no females under any circumstances should take steroids either.

Its the same story here again u say there is a big difference b/w 17-18 i have read about 15 posts from marcus explaining how it works till 25 yrs of age. u want to do it go do fvck it all up use dbol only cycle if u like but dont expect me or any other creditable member advise u on how to do it. cause no matter what u use right or wrong its going to screw up ur hpta . but personally i dont want to be responsible in any way in this matter. thats it thats all no matter what u say i dont care someone want to give u advise its good.

[calgarian]

marcus said that

Aswell as stubborn your not listening, with a solid diet and training program and your natural testosterone you will get the roughly the same results as taking var, forget steroids at your age.

AGE
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.



TRAINING
You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.

Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.

Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development


DIET
A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.

No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.

This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment.

[shortybrolick]

Eat Big , Train like an Animal -- take it to another level.. Be true to thy own self

[Superhero d-bolman]

marcus said that

Aswell as stubborn your not listening, with a solid diet and training program and your natural testosterone you will get the roughly the same results as taking var, forget steroids at your age.

AGE
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.



TRAINING
You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.

Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.

Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development


DIET
A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.

No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.

This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment.

First of all i believe that's still pure speculation about the hpta considering the fact that that side effect isn't even mentioned in the National Institute for Drug Abuse or any official government data. 2nd of all you completely ignored my part about females and steroids, which i believe is because you know i CLEARLY have a valid point there which proves there is a bias going on.

tell ya what i'd rather be a 20 year old kid with 3 moderate dosed cycles under his belt and risk that HPTA issue. Then be a 35 year old female and have small boobs, and an enlarged clit, and a male voice forever.

Btw i agree with you about the anavar thing.

[taiboxa]

age can suck my balls.. i look at a persons training/diet history.. which IMO is far far more selective than age.. if i had my say.. i'd nerf 80% on this forum for using aas when they arent truly ready for em.. then i'd nerf the other 10% for pissing me off for saying dumb stuff, then i nerf the other 9.919% for having a better physizue than me.. and then THE FORUM WOULD BE ALL MINE!

[powerliftmike]

At 17 you need nothing

...

I'm soon 17 years old, 1,86 high, 72-73 kg. I have a problem gaining weight, I'm kind of skinny, pretty muscular though.

He is not 17, he's 16. Either way cannot be on this board and has much reading to do.

age can suck my balls.. i look at a persons training/diet history.. which IMO is far far more selective than age.. if i had my say.. i'd nerf 80% on this forum for using aas when they arent truly ready for em.. then i'd nerf the other 10% for pissing me off for saying dumb stuff, then i nerf the other 9.919% for having a better physizue than me.. and then THE FORUM WOULD BE ALL MINE!

Haha. Think I should "nerf" my girlfriend this weekend? Sounds dirty...