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    alibido loss after 10 weeks of test e (500mg/week)

    For the first 8 weeks i was on a mass gaining cycle (3 weeks dbol kickstart), gained A LOT!

    Then the gaines stopped, but only because i eased into dieting mode...currently diet/cardio...so NO GAINS ANYMORE BUT LOSING FAT and KEEPING THE GAINS and that was the plan from the beggining.

    I'll be running the cycle for 2 more months.I was planning on switching to prop fot the last month or so.

    I always run 5 or so month cycles and then take a year or so off.

    I'm 28. Lots of stress lately, not to mention the dieting and cardio.

    Should I :

    a) add arimidex (i take some here and there)
    b) up the test (some articles say you have to up the dosage after 8 weeks)
    c) switch ti prop right now since it doesn't aromatise as much?

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    By libido i mean sex drive.....i just don't have it as opossed to the first month or2 when it was through the roof

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    So your cycle is nearly 5 months??? That is way to long in my opinion......

    With that said, your libido problem might well be a result of estro. You could need an AI of some sort. If I were you I would get some bloodwork to find out where your levels are..

    Dosing schedule?
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    thanks for the input man.....i always do long cycles but take really long periods of rest....doing so for many years...

    i'll copy/paste my question that noone answered

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    Greetings its been a while i hope some of the old bros are still here


    ....so anyway I always do one big cycle a year (like4-5 months and take the rest of the year off to maintain and rest from the poking

    I've been doing 2x250mg test e / week for the past 2 months, kickedstarted it with dianabol for the first 3 weeks.

    Gained a shitload of mass, and naturally a bit of fat too....

    Started cutting 2 weeks ago, cardio the whole nine yeards, no easing into it, this is how it always works for me..

    SO as for my question :

    I wanna buimp up the test e to 2x500 mg/week (double it), for the next month and then I'll get into prop (100mg EOD)...

    QUESTION : HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE FOR MY BLOOD LEVELS OF TEST TO RISE ?

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    SO what do you think :

    - start arimidex ?

    - up the test e for the last month?

    - or stop the test e and start the prop - aromatazes less and the dosage will lower then the e....?

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    Start with the prop right away, libido should be up within a few days

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    SO what do you think :

    - start arimidex ?

    - up the test e for the last month?

    - or stop the test e and start the prop - aromatazes less and the dosage will lower then the e....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bor View Post
    SO what do you think :

    - start arimidex ?

    - up the test e for the last month?

    - or stop the test e and start the prop - aromatazes less and the dosage will lower then the e....?
    I would get some bloodwork. Im not a fan of taking ancillaries unless you need them. However, It certainly wouldnt hurt you to start a low dose of adex. If you increase the test you will likely need it..

    I agree that if you are looking for more gains (after the 10 weeks) you will need to up the test dose.

    If aromatization is your main concern the AI will help take care of that. Therefore you could stay on the test e.

    Prop would be fine also, I just hate the pain frequent sticks when running prop.

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    Thanks a lot man - the tick to the prop pain is to work the muscle for like 5 minutes after injecting, f.e. inject into quad b4 going to the gym, and then do some leg extensions with that leg and no pain after that....

    What kind of bloowd work should i do? just my estrogen level? or is it a test/estr ratio? Does it matter when i injected b4 the bloodwork? I'm croatian so the results will be confusing

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    If it were me I would go ahead and get thorough work up.
    In my opinion there are a few critical ones I walways get:

    Test free/total
    Estradiol
    lipid panel
    liver/kidney work up
    homocysteine
    RBC's
    Bun
    LH
    FSH
    Thyroid...T3, T4, total and free, TSH
    prolactin/progesterone

    Thats just a few important ones....
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    Quote Originally Posted by big_steve View Post
    Start with the prop right away, libido should be up within a few days
    Prop? Why? Yousure? I mean, it would suit me great since i'm cutting anyway

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    Shorter estered test (prop) will help with libido faster than longer estered(test E)...........

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    SHould i still use arimidex with prop? And is 100mg ED ok? or should I do EOD? And how long since my last test e shot should i wait?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bor View Post
    SHould i still use arimidex with prop? And is 100mg ED ok? or should I do EOD? And how long since my last test e shot should i wait?
    If bloodwork indicates that your estro is high then yes yopu will need the adex whether its prop or test e.
    I prefer to use prop ed.
    If you are taking 2 250 mg shots of test e per week then I would drop one of them, start the prop immediately and after a week drop the test e altogether...

    Now some may have a different opinion than this....

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