Seeking Advice for TESTO-E & DIANABOL cycle

[JohnDim]

Hello,

I'm about to start a steroid cycle for the first time in my life.
I'm 27, 6' tall and I weight 181 pounds.

My cycle will be:

week
cycle__ T. ENANTHATE//DIANABOL//NOLVADEX//PROVIRON//Milk Thistle
............ 250mg amp //10mg tab// 10mg tab//10mg tab// 300mg tab

1........250mg/week// 20mg/day........................................3 tab/day
2........250mg/week// 20mg/day........................................3 tab/day
3........250mg/week// 20mg/day....................1 tab/day......3 tab/day
4........250mg/week// 30mg/day....................1 tab/day......3 tab/day
5........250mg/week// 20mg/day....................1 tab/day......3 tab/day
6........250mg/week// 20mg/day....1 tab/day.......................3 tab/day
7........250mg/week// .................................................. ...3 tab/day
8............................................. 1 tab/day.......................3 tab/day
9..............................................1 tab/day.......................3 tab/day
10............................................1 tab/day........................3 tab/day


However, I'm afraid of effects such as gyno and testicles reduction. Do you think that with NOLVADEX and PROVIRON using them as shown above am I covered from gyno effects?

1)How do you suspect that you face gyno effects? and if you do you stop the cycle?

2)Do you think that this cycle will be effective?
3)Do you know any websites for diets during steroid cycles? Cos I don't want to gain fat during the cycle.

Cheers!!

[Matt]

First cycle should be test only imo, you need to be running it at 400/500mgs ew, split into two shots every 3.5 days...

Keep an ai on hand and run a basic pct......

Diet is key, you need to up your cals...

[gymnerd]

OK I personally think you should up the test dose BUT I have heard alot of guys on here have good success with a low dose like that so thats your call.

I like the way you are running the dbol per4sonally but alot of people will say one compound first cycle but thats up to you.

Drop the nolva all together on cycle unless you get itchy nips its not needed IMO.

I like the proviron idea and it will help to keep estrogen under control however 10mg ED for only a few wks will do nothing, I would either drop it OR run 50mg the entire cycle(preffered) I think proviron is a good addition to any cycle but if you only have enough for a few wks save it till next time and get more.

Lastly what do you have planned for PCT??

Your diet and training will controlo your results, eat big and clean and you will look the same way simple as that.

[JohnDim]

gymnerd thank you very much for your advice!

I'll increase the dose of proviron to 50mg. But should I take it for the 7weeks of the cycle or more than that?

I'm very afraid of gyno so I'm not sure dropping Nolva..

Do you think that Milk Thistle is a good idea?

For PTC I'll be happy to listen your advice!!And i'd be happy if you propose me some gear for the PTC but gear that I'll be able to find where to buy in UK.
CHEERS!!

[boardhead]

I'm on something similar right now. here it is

week 1-10 test e 300mg/wek
week 1-4 dbol 20mg/day (2 tabs day)
liquidex .25 e3d. i'll jump that up if i see any adverse sides.

right now in week 3 i am just now startnig to feel the test. the dbol kicked in about 5 days after starting. also running clen 2 weeks on/off the entire cycle.

PCT starts at week 12
clomid/nolva/tribulus terrest (natural test booster)

i've done a few cycles like this in the past as a light bulk. just make sure you eat a ton of clean calories and take in at least 200g protein/day.

[JohnDim]

I'm on something similar right now. here it is

week 1-10 test e 300mg/wek
week 1-4 dbol 20mg/day (2 tabs day)
liquidex .25 e3d. i'll jump that up if i see any adverse sides.

right now in week 3 i am just now startnig to feel the test. the dbol kicked in about 5 days after starting. also running clen 2 weeks on/off the entire cycle.

PCT starts at week 12
clomid/nolva/tribulus terrest (natural test booster)

i've done a few cycles like this in the past as a light bulk. just make sure you eat a ton of clean calories and take in at least 200g protein/day.

Thanks for letting me know. Can you state the dosages and duration of your PTC?

[gbrice75]

Consider dropping the nolva while on and using arimidex instead. Do some research on the compound and you'll probably agree. Save the nolva for PCT.

[Half-Life 6]

you should bump up the test to 500 mg. a week and the dbol to 30 mg, proviron and milk thistle arent really needed.. use an AI every couple days and into your PCT then with nolva and some HCG the last couple weeks to help recover faster. your shutting down your natural test production, you might as well do 500mg a week rather than 250 mg both safe even for a "first" cycle, your first cycle doesn't have to be a test only it can be test and dbol there both relatively simple compounds and the side effects are usually preventable/predictable, if you use an AI and have nolva on hand then you WILL NOT have gyno

[JohnDim]

If I revised the cycle to:

week
cycle__ T. ENANTHATE//DIANABOL//NOLVADEX//PROVIRON//
............ 250mg amp //10mg tab// 10mg tab//25mg tab//

1........250mg/week// 20mg/day....................2 tab/day.....
2........250mg/week// 20mg/day....................2 tab/day....
3........500mg/week// 30mg/day....................2 tab/day.....
4........500mg/week// 30mg/day....................2 tab/day.....
5........500mg/week// 30mg/day....................2 tab/day.....
6........250mg/week// 20mg/day....................2 tab/day....
7........250mg/week// .................................2 tab/day....
8............................................. 1 tab/day.....................
9..............................................1 tab/day.....................
10............................................1 tab/day.....................


PCT: WEEKS 11-15: nolva 10mg/day, clomid 50mg/day, tribulus 600mg/day.

What do you think??

Any comments about the PCT?

[JohnDim]

Drop the nolva all together on cycle unless you get itchy nips its not needed IMO.

So you think that nolva should be used in weeks 8-10 unless I get itchy nips?

for PCT I think of:

weeks 11-15: nolva 10mg/day , chlomid 50mg/day , Tribulus 600mg/day.

what's your opinion?

[gymnerd]

So you think that nolva should be used in weeks 8-10 unless I get itchy nips?

for PCT I think of:

weeks 11-15: nolva 10mg/day , chlomid 50mg/day , Tribulus 600mg/day.

what's your opinion?

I would start PCT 2wks after last shot of test using 50mg of clomid and 20mg of nolva should be good.

[JohnDim]

also running clen 2 weeks on/off the entire cycle.

At what dosage are you running clen?