1st Cycle Help

[Td00]

Hey all, newbie here.

my stats:
1.8m - 5'905 ft
81kg - 178lbs
BMI: 10% aprox.
22yrs old

I want to use AAS for aestethic purposes. I also had a bad acne when i was younger and sometimes i still get some naturally and i'm losing some hair, so i'm afraid AAS won't serve my purpose, because i'm afraid i might end up bigger but bald :/

I need to gain more sustainable, lean mass, as little water retention and bloating as possible and reduce just a little bit of fat for working in the summer promoting stuff at the beach again (been doing it for 2 years, this pays my rent for 4 months, so its a big help for my budget), so i don't need more strength or getting bigger, just some lean good looking mass and secondary objective would be reducing BMI, but it's not that important.

I'm thinking on just 250mg Enan because i want 11lbs-15lbs of SUSTAINABLE gains (most important of all things for me!), and i don't want too much water retention. Perhaps Anavar would help too?

Other cycles i'm considering:

Will this cycle do the job?
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
7 – 12 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

or this one?
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
8 – 13 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

(cycles taken from the newbie cycles thread)

If not, what would you recommend?

Help would be greatly appreciated.

[Tyler694]

I would go with 500mg test / week!

[nyspqr]

Yes, totally. I love test. The more test, the better.

[Td00]

I would go with 500mg test / week!

Wouldn't that accelerate my hair loss? what about acne, i had a bad acne when i was a teen.

also, would it make a big difference if i take winny out and just use test + nolva? i'm kinda tight on budget.

[Tyler694]

Taking the winny out sounds good. It probably won't do too much for you anyways. Other than wreck your liver.

So yes, test only cycle. Nolva as PCT.

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..and as far as hair loss or acne, 500mg (opposed to 400mg) won't make the sides thaaaat much worse, but it will supply a big difference in the gym!

Get some Nizoral shampoo and use it 2-3 times / week to help with hair loss. Proactive always helps me with acne too.

[Td00]

Thank you everyone for the replyies!

Taking the winny out sounds good. It probably won't do too much for you anyways. Other than wreck your liver.

So yes, test only cycle. Nolva as PCT.

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..and as far as hair loss or acne, 500mg (opposed to 400mg) won't make the sides thaaaat much worse, but it will supply a big difference in the gym!

Get some Nizoral shampoo and use it 2-3 times / week to help with hair loss. Proactive always helps me with acne too.

No Clomid? Just Nolva? If so, that'd greatly help my budget haha

Also, will my gains be sustainable? I know there's a loss after you get off the AAS but after that loss i would be satisfied if i keep 10-12lbs. I can't afford more than 1 cycle per year, so i'm just going to do a good and well planned cycle once a year and hope i can keep 10-12lbs.

Also, without winny will my mass look lean?

[Td00]

Bump

after further research, i believe 250mg of test Enan would do the job, as i really want just 11-15lbs SUSTAINABLE gain and i don't want to look too bulked up and don't retain lots of water.

Do you guys think this would be ok?

[cmc520]

I would go with 500 mgs a week.. 250 is kinda low.. go with prop if you dont want alot of water retention and want to cut.. only problem is you gotta pin eod

[Td00]

I would go with 500 mgs a week.. 250 is kinda low.. go with prop if you dont want alot of water retention and want to cut.. only problem is you gotta pin eod

Thank you for taking time to reply!

I'm not really sure if i'd take pinning EOD because i'm a newbie and maybe i'm willing to accept that little more retention

Also as i've been researching, EQ and Winny seem toproduce really sustainable gains, do you agree with it? 250mg/week of Enan would produce sustainable gains with little bloating?

Is gaining atleast 11lbs of lean and sustainable mass with little or no bloating possible using 250mg of Enan/week? I wish i was greedier and aim at more gains but i'm really afraid of losing more hair and having acne again (as i said, i had a bad acne when i was a teenager and those were my dark ages lol)

[MaNiCC]

Thank you for taking time to reply!

I'm not really sure if i'd take pinning EOD because i'm a newbie and maybe i'm willing to accept that little more retention

Also as i've been researching, EQ and Winny seem toproduce really sustainable gains, do you agree with it? 250mg/week of Enan would produce sustainable gains with little bloating?

Is gaining atleast 11lbs of lean and sustainable mass with little or no bloating possible using 250mg of Enan/week?

I would only consider running test for your first cycle, leave the eq and winny for another time

[cmc520]

Thank you for taking time to reply!

I'm not really sure if i'd take pinning EOD because i'm a newbie and maybe i'm willing to accept that little more retention

Also as i've been researching, EQ and Winny seem toproduce really sustainable gains, do you agree with it? 250mg/week of Enan would produce sustainable gains with little bloating?

Is gaining atleast 11lbs of lean and sustainable mass with little or no bloating possible using 250mg of Enan/week? I wish i was greedier and aim at more gains but i'm really afraid of losing more hair and having acne again (as i said, i had a bad acne when i was a teenager and those were my dark ages lol)

like others said, just stick with test, and make sure you got your pct lined up, you can do what you want with the dosage. but the way i see it, if your gunna do 250 u might as well do 400-500 and do it the right way.. the gains will be better and the side effects wont be much different, if you even get them..

[Td00]

like others said, just stick with test, and make sure you got your pct lined up, you can do what you want with the dosage. but the way i see it, if your gunna do 250 u might as well do 400-500 and do it the right way.. the gains will be better and the side effects wont be much different, if you even get them..

Thanks for the quick reply Cmc520 and MaNiCC.

But will my gains be sustainable? I really can't afford more than 1 cycle per year, so if i'm going to do the cycle, i hope i can keep some gains till my 2nd cycle.