Has anyone cycled TEST without PCT

**gongshow** · 05-09-2010, 06:59 PM

just wondering if anyone has? i want to do a 12 week test prop cycle and want to see if its really nessecary, im 22

i was reading about guys loosing vision on PCT?

**FL_CARTEL** · 05-09-2010, 07:41 PM

I feel your pain to gain. On the real bro be serious about your cycle run. You have only one body keep it real. On an experience note, I ran Enanthate 250, with a very poor PCT. Ran Nolva in an un orderly fasion. I highy suggest you PCT. Or else you could easily pop yourself some boobies, (which started to happen to meuntil I caught it early...), lose your gains quicker and lead to other problems.

"Educate before you Medicate"

**CMB** · 05-09-2010, 08:46 PM

Blah, im tired of little bitches complaining about their vision problems it goes away as soon as you stop medicating.

Oh, and 22 is a little bit young so make sure you have a great pct. Nolva/clomid or tore.

The standard pct I usually go with is...
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

I usually don't use tore just because its harder for me to obtain.

**gongshow** · 05-09-2010, 09:45 PM

ok thanks this was the cycle i had in mind with PCT

**CMB** · 05-09-2010, 09:53 PM

Yeah but if for some reason you do start to have vision problems with clomid either lower the dose or drop the drug completely.

**gongshow** · 05-09-2010, 09:54 PM

Weeks 1-12: Test Prop @ 130mg EOD
Weeks 9-12: Winstrol @ 50mg ED (space the tabs out evenly throughout the day)

Week 13: Nolvadex @ 20mg ED
week 13: Clomid @ 100mg ED
Weeks 14-16: Nolvadex @ 10mg ED
weeks 14-16: Clomid @ 50mg ED

do i need arimidex or aromasin ??