Test prop first cycle

**percy01** · 05-10-2010, 07:15 AM

Hey guys ive come here for advise from you guys who know what your talking about when it coes to AAS.

Well ive been training now since i was 15 i just turned 21 friday, anyway im looking at doing a real mild steriod cycle..

I wanna run testolic prop 100mg/ml as a standalone cycle for 7 - 10 weeks, i am going to be injecting it 1ml every monday wednesday and friday due to the fact it needs to be injected ED or EOD, ive read up alot on it and i no a few things about it such as its a fast acting steriod with a short half life so usually it is stacked with somthing else thats a longer acting prop, its got perks such as low water retension.

Im also gonna run liquid letrozole every 5th day of my cycle ?

And for PCT im thinking liquid nolvadex , for this im thinking of running it 4 weeks after the cycle with the folowing dosage>> 40/30/20/20

because this isnt a heavy cycle im thinking i might not really need clomid ??
i no its not exactly the same as nolva but i thought by running letro throught and having nolva for pct i feel thins should be fine,?

Please let me know if you think the abouve would be alright guys, cheers

Age 21

My stats 177cm tall

Weight 201 pounds

Bf 12.9%

my diet consists of 7 meals a day

at least 2 of them contain alot of green veggies, i eat a peice of rump steak every day, i eat jacket potatoe basically everyday before gym, my meals are basically tuna, haddock, salmon, chicken, steak loads veg, rice cakes with peanut butter and marmite, almonds, mixed fruit, 3 weatabix every morning along with a protein shake, the protein i use is gaspari's myofuson, i also take zinc tablets and a teaspoon of flax oil every day

If you could pease give your opinions on this cycle it would be very much appreciated cheers in advance guys

**sigman roid** · 05-10-2010, 07:26 AM

I'd still use clomid in pct and i wouldnt use letro at all its overkill for the cycle your doing.

Oh and for the record your still kinda young to be doing a cycle.

***D7M*** · 05-10-2010, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by sigman roid

oh and for the record your still kinda young to be doing a cycle.

^x2.....

**percy01** · 05-10-2010, 09:00 AM

i do no im young like, but you see so many arseholes aged 16 - 19 on the juice who dont have the slightest clue what their doing diets are wrong, aint been training long and what not and at the worst 90% have never heard of a pct.

Im assumeing this is probably one of the lowest cycles possible ?
i feel ive platured as i have been benching 140kg for 6 for the last 3 months :/ this will most likley be because i need to add more food to my diet,

i have been thinking about this for over a year and thought at 21 ill do it.

You say not to add letro, doesnt this keep your balls from shrinking therfore allowing you to retain a quicker recovery,
im guessing then you would keep more gains useing this but not get as good results on cycle where as without it you might get more gains on cycle but, take longer to recover and lose more gains, plus letro will help with gyno along the road, and nolva helps finish it off?

**percy01** · 05-10-2010, 09:01 AM

Also what would you run nolva and clomid for, for this cycle ?? cheers for the advice guys

**percy01** · 05-10-2010, 04:08 PM

Bump

**percy01** · 05-11-2010, 04:34 PM

bump

**cmc520** · 05-11-2010, 04:43 PM

to answer your question..

HCG is used to help with a faster recovery, and to keep your balls from shrinking... not letro

correct me if im wrong but im pretty positive on this.

**boxa06** · 05-11-2010, 05:16 PM

cmc520 is correct!

letro is and ai

hcg is to keep you balls going

**Forbidden16** · 05-11-2010, 07:00 PM

Letrozole is one of the strongest AI's available, it's usually chosen when trying to get rid of some gyno that's already forming, you would be decreasing your Estrogen levels probably way too low and experience an Estrogen rebound.

I'd think most would advice to take a low dose Arimidex (.5mg EOD or lower) instead up to a few days before PCT starts.

What you're talking about your balls not shrinking is called HCG , it helps speeding recovery at PCT time since you won't experience testicular dysfunction. A dose of 250iu 2-3 times a week from first to last week of Test injections is what I see usually recommended.

IMO you should run at least a lower dose Clomid along with the Nolvadex since Clomid is supposed to help bring back up HPTA back in function faster.

There's tons of more detailed info in the sticky by WarMachine:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=379916