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    Classic eq vs deca question . . . . .

    Starting a course soon . . . suffered too much hairloss from test on my last course so going a different route this time. Hate Finasteride aswell. Was thinking replacement dose of test like 100mg per week with probably 900mg/wk eq for 16 weeks probably with tbol for first 6 or 8 weeks? How liver toxic is tbol, i'm assuming you can't drink on it? Problem is the amount of eq I'll need is gonna work out expensive, so was toying with the idea of using deca at 300 or 400mg/wk, but would deca be too suppressive considering the low doses of test i'll be using??

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    Either accept the hairloss, or don't cycle at all. Running such a low dose of test along with 3-4 times the amount of Deca will cause problems, and most likely deca dick.

    EQ sucks.
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    I've heard mixed opinions on eq . . . don't know until you try though right, I might be one of those that benefits from it.

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    who need har? lol . why dont you like finastrade?

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    At least bump the test to 200mg wk, I'm not sure you will feel much at 100mg wk...my trt dose is 200 a wk..I've ran deca at 500mg a week along my trt dose and had great results..good luck

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    Nothing 'classic' here, but...
    Quote Originally Posted by richtries View Post
    Starting a course soon . . . suffered too much hairloss from test on my last course so going a different route this time.
    Did you get it back post-cycle?

    Hate Finasteride aswell.
    Like Focus said, "Why"?

    Was thinking replacement dose of test like 100mg per week with probably 900mg/wk eq for 16 weeks probably with tbol for first 6 or 8 weeks?
    That's hefty, what are your stats and cycle history?

    How liver toxic is tbol, i'm assuming you can't drink on it?
    Mild, and no.

    Problem is the amount of eq I'll need is gonna work out expensive, so was toying with the idea of using deca at 300 or 400mg/wk,
    That's sensible.

    but would deca be too suppressive considering the low doses of test i'll be using??
    Suppressive as in Erectile Dysfunction? Possibly, but you may have to tinker with the lowest level for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiki View Post
    Either accept the hairloss, or don't cycle at all. Running such a low dose of test along with 3-4 times the amount of Deca will cause problems, and most likely deca dick.

    EQ sucks.
    not true. talk to tia. he runs low test, high everything else on all his cycles

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    Quote Originally Posted by magic32 View Post
    Nothing 'classic' here, but...
    Thanks for your advice Magic, and to answer your questions . . .

    With my hair I just noticed a lot more on my hands/in the bath when i washed it and on my pillow whilst I was on the gear compared to before/now. Not sure if it has re-grown or not. Finasteride messes with my libido. Stats I'm 5'11 198lbs approx 12% after two test cycles first was 500mg/wk 14 weeks with superdrol kick start, and second was just test 250mg/wk 10 weeks. Perhaps 600mg/wk for 14 would be more suitable, i'd really like to see if I experience the appetite increase on eq. Or do you think that Deca at a lower dose is a better option then? Suppressive as in sexual functioning yes . . .

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    not true. talk to tia. he runs low test, high everything else on all his cycles
    Who's 'tia' bro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sigman roid View Post
    Tiaboxa
    the ninja.

    search some of his post. All he runs now are low test cycles. He def has more experience in that then anyone else on here

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    OK why does everyone say that running deca at higher dose than test will cause problems. Deca will shut down your natty test, but you will still have 200mg of exogenous test that deca can't "cancel out", or am I wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by awesome1 View Post
    OK why does everyone say that running deca at higher dose than test will cause problems. Deca will shut down your natty test, but you will still have 200mg of exogenous test that deca can't "cancel out", or am I wrong?
    correct

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    I usually never up my 200mg trt dose..and I have done two deca cycles along the low dose test...no problems with doing that at all....where's the ninja when we need him..

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    Quote Originally Posted by awesome1 View Post
    OK why does everyone say that running deca at higher dose than test will cause problems. Deca will shut down your natty test, but you will still have 200mg of exogenous test that deca can't "cancel out", or am I wrong?
    Because your estrogen levels will be out of balance, this is what I remember one of the vets telling me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboomer View Post
    At least bump the test to 200mg wk, I'm not sure you will feel much at 100mg wk...my trt dose is 200 a wk..I've ran deca at 500mg a week along my trt dose and had great results..good luck
    For me this is a great cycle.250 test + ? I love Deca , but you have got to respect it. I've had struggles running it at over 600mgs wk. 900 mgs. wk. you better have a good PCT

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