Opinions on Sus and Deca

[stevo-ss]

hey guys

my training partner has decided to start a 10 week cycle 1ml a week of deca and 1ml a week of sus

is this a common cycle or is it a bad idea?, i thought i would get some opinions before he starts next week

cheers

[Matt]

Its a bad idea..

Ask your training partner to join this site and we will do our best to guide him in the right direction....

[stevo-ss]

he doesn't have internet access and im looking at doing the same thing so after a little insight of people that know

no flaming

[Matt]

Well before we can give any advice we need stats so lets start there..

Age
Height
Weight
Bf%
Years training
Cycle history
Pct knowledge ?????

[stevo-ss]

21
5' 11"
94kgs (206lbs i think roughly im from aus so we use kgs)
id say about 18% bf
on and off over the last 2 years, i have decent sized traps and shoulders but wanna get on to gain abit of chest and biceps and triceps
never cycled before
havnt looked into a pct though but will be using something straight after the cycle

i have already bought the stuff but might wait a little before trying it after some of the stuff i have read on here

can you give me any info on deca and sus, from what i have read it doesnt sound like a great idea for a first cycle?

[sixxer]

I ran Deca and Test for my first. Got great gains, no sides apart from some slight acne.

If you're running Sus I would pin at least mon/wed/fri, or EOD.

And I'd run at least 350mg of deca, I increased mine to 500mg at about week 8, I think. And at least 500mg of Test, I increased mine to 750mg around week 7 and 800mg at week 10.

So 0.75cc Sus mon/wed/fri and 0.75cc of deca wed night, 0.75cc sunday morning (assuming your deca is 250mg/ml).

Might want to have some cabergoline on hand in case of deca sides, and some aromasin in case of test sides.

For PCT run Nolva at 40/40/20/20 and Clomid at 100/100/50/50, depending upon your recovery might want to extend to 5 or even 6 weeks.

[Matt]

I ran Deca and Test for my first. Got great gains, no sides apart from some slight acne.

If you're running Sus I would pin at least mon/wed/fri, or EOD.

And I'd run at least 350mg of deca, I increased mine to 500mg at about week 8, I think. And at least 500mg of Test, I increased mine to 750mg around week 7 and 800mg at week 10.

So 0.75cc Sus mon/wed/fri and 0.75cc of deca wed night, 0.75cc sunday morning (assuming your deca is 250mg/ml).

Might want to have some cabergoline on hand in case of deca sides, and some aromasin in case of test sides.

For PCT run Nolva at 40/40/20/20 and Clomid at 100/100/50/50, depending upon your recovery might want to extend to 5 or even 6 weeks.

Well theres your answers....

It doesnt matter that no one is telling you your to young.

It doesnt matter that your bf% is way to high..

It doesnt matter that you havnt done any researching for yourself, so your going to put these compounds into your body before you know anything about them...

I have no idea how we've survived all these years without sixxer....

If you come back in six months needing gyno surgery and a fvcked hapt then sixxers your man...

[sixxer]

Well theres your answers....

It doesnt matter that no one is telling you your to young.

It doesnt matter that your bf% is way to high..

It doesnt matter that you havnt done any researching for yourself, so your going to put these compounds into your body before you know anything about them...

I have no idea how we've survived all these years without sixxer....

If you come back in six months needing gyno surgery and a fvcked hapt then sixxers your man...

You know what, despite your personal motives, you're dead right on this occasion. Good on you, champ.

I completely overlooked his stats, didn't even notice them.

And had I seen them, I would say exactly the same thing as you.

1. You're too young.
2. Bodyfat is too high, increased chances of bad sides at this %
3. If you're not going to heed this advice and run them anyway then refer to my first post. Which despite 007's opinions of me, would be sound advice in regards to how to run those compounds, what you want on hand in case of sides, and PCT. Except he would most probably recommend something like 200mg-400 of Test per week and 250mg deca .

[stevo-ss]

on the vials o have it says

DE200
Nandrolone Decanoate
200mg/ml multidose vial

and

Sustanon 250 is a mixture of 4 testosterone mixtures
propionate 30MG
Phenylpropionate 60Mg
Isocaproate 60MG
Decanoate 100MG



does that in anyway change which way i should be using it

[Matt]

Please read the board rules and edit that lab name...

[stevey_6t9]

aaaa stevo nice name and good to see an aussie here

im guessing your trainer is a fitness first "guru" who knows fuk all about AAS and likes to text whilst having you run on the treadmill.

i suggest you hold up your cycle plans and do some more research on here.