Dbol/Winstrol cycle questions

[pitfighter]

I am startimg my first cycle. 4 weeks Dbol(oral) followed by 4 weeks winstrol(also oral). I know this isn't the best but it's what I got. Questions:

(1)How much of each for a daily dose?

(2)Should I take nolvadex(its' what I already have) during the whole cycle?

(3)Advice on PCT with this cycle?

I am 37 yrs old and have been training off and on for several years. I have been training hard for the past 5-6 months.

I have read test. improves the cycle but I don't have that available. What I have listed is what I got to use. Thanks for any help!

[Big]

don't run a rediculously awful cycle because it's what you have. I'm glad your source didn't stock cyanide. start here
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=404909

[Strong 1215]

Don't waste your orals!! I would wait till you can get something to pin. That way you will see the best results and gains. Doing an "oral" cycle would be a waste.

[InknSteel]

don't run a rediculously awful cycle because it's what you have. I'm glad your source didn't stock cyanide. start here
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=404909

X2! Wait until you can find some test. You will end up just wasting the orals and your liver if you run that.

[pitfighter]

Thanks, I will see if I can find some.

[Someguy123]

its not the liver i would worry about. it would be the whole, being shut down, and not having any test, that would bother me.

[pitfighter]

Getting what I need is the problem right now. I will work on that. Thanks for the help!

[c-Z]

Poor cycle indeed..... Would most definitely never run that without test let alone stack those two together at the same time.

[pitfighter]

I wasn't planning on running them at the same time. I wanted to take the Dbol for four weeks then switch to Win for 4 weeks. I'm looking for a little more size and definition beyond what I can get with diet alone. Wouldn't that type of cycle be much easier on the liver?