Restarting Cycle after problems.. EQ question. Please help me out!

[fray5]

Hey fellas. About a month ago I began a cycle of test e, eq, and dbol. My plan was 500mg test e, 400 eq, and 50mg dbol. However, I experienced bad headaches and even had a panic attack. Considering this was at a time where I was under a lot of stress, maybe that was it. I just need some input. My past cycles include 2 test e's at 500mg a wk for 8 wks and I was satisfied with my results. When i started the 3rd one about a month ago, I only did one pin of 200mg eq and 250mg test e and the dbol at 50 mg for three days. I took a weeks worth of Nolva just to be safe and the boys seem to be doing fine down there. Perhaps I'm just sensitive to eq and also the guy it came from said it was like double overdosed when it had been tested so perhaps that is why I had the anxiety and headaches. Or maybe it was because the eq and dbol are similar. Anyhow, what's the best way to resume this cycle a month later? I was thinking two things... either 500mg test, lower dose of eq since it's overdosed, and 25 mg dbol.. or 500-750mg of test e and 25-50mg of dbol without eq... or 500-750 test e and lower eq dose without dbol. I appreciate any help and thanks a lot guys. Also, since I was having these probs and it could've been high bp, I was thinking of taking a baby aspirin 1 ed. So any input on that would be appreciated.

[Vitruvian-Man]

Honestly bro, some people get really bad anxiety from EQ... you may want to consider dropping that compound, and sticking to a simple Test-E/D-bol stack

-VM

[fray5]

Honestly bro, some people get really bad anxiety from EQ... you may want to consider dropping that compound, and sticking to a simple Test-E/D-bol stack

-VM

Yeah, that's what I've been reading. You think i could still get good gains from just those 2?

[Vitruvian-Man]

You think i could still get good gains from just those 2?

Yes.

Best beginner/basic stack one could do IMO.

-VM

[fray5]

Yes.

Best beginner/basic stack one could do IMO.

-VM

Good deal. So i will run 500mg test e along with 25 mg of dbol and perhaps after 2 wks bump the dbol up to 50mg for the remaining 2 wks. Any other comments? And thanks again for helping me out

[Vitruvian-Man]

Yes, that's fine.

[Igifuno]

What is it about the EQ that causes the stress exactly?

[Vitruvian-Man]

I honestly don't know what pathways EQ acts on that makes it effect anxiety.

It doesn't happen in all users though.

I only notice the anxiety for the first week, and then it subsides. But yeah, I'm not 100% sure why it produces that response exactly.

-VM

[ottomaddox]

The headaches are probably caused by the D-bol its known to raise blood pressure. C'mon guy it's not rocket science. How much water are you drinking??????
Stats:
age
weight
height
prev cycles w/pct?
yrs training
etc.............

[Igifuno]

I've used EQ before and never had those sides, d-bol as well.

[powerliftmike]

Also, since I was having these probs and it could've been high bp, I was thinking of taking a baby aspirin 1 ed. So any input on that would be appreciated.

I doubt aspirin will help, its for blood clotting reduction not hypertension (high BP). Also, AAS actually decrease coagulation (clotting) so taking with aspirin is usually contraindicated.

Dont understand your exact problem, but if you are describing headaches, I would focus on the dbol as the problem before assuming its EQ. But edema from dbol combined with RBC increase from EQ can make you feel sick..

[fray5]

The headaches are probably caused by the D-bol its known to raise blood pressure. C'mon guy it's not rocket science. How much water are you drinking??????
Stats:
age
weight
height
prev cycles w/pct?
yrs training
etc.............

Age: 24
Weight: 170
Height : 5'6"
BF%: 7-8%
roughly 6 years training
I drink at least 200 ounces of water a day.
My BP before cycle was always good... always around 120/80 and sometimes even better than that. After a couple weeks and the stuff left my system from the first pins, I feel quite normal again.

[fray5]

I doubt aspirin will help, its for blood clotting reduction not hypertension (high BP). Also, AAS actually decrease coagulation (clotting) so taking with aspirin is usually contraindicated.

Dont understand your exact problem, but if you are describing headaches, I would focus on the dbol as the problem before assuming its EQ. But edema from dbol combined with RBC increase from EQ can make you feel sick..

So what do you think? Drop the dbol or eq or just give them both a go again? Perhaps it will go away after one week like in the above post...

[powerliftmike]

So what do you think? Drop the dbol or eq or just give them both a go again? Perhaps it will go away after one week like in the above post...

You can only test one variable at a time if you are trying to figure the cause. If you dont care at this point which one it is and just want the headaches to stop, discontinue both. You can always run one or the other at a later day to test. Furthermore stopping both right now can clue you in if they are even to blame...I mean you might just have allergy headaches from pollen, or getting sick, or anything really...

This is why so many suggest first cycle test only, and if all is well, add an AAS on top of your test for you next cycle, etc. Running several different AAS for the first time together doesnt give you a clear picture how your body responds to each favorably or unfavorably.