best steroid to bulk?

[newb23]

in yalls opinion what is the best steroid to retain gains? i have been researching and it seems deca is good at retaining gains (I know it depends on pct) but in my search it seems steroids are different in that some retain gains better thana others. any thoughts?

[thetruthc32]

testosterone for bulk if you do it right , you will retain a good amount. tren i hear is good. You can always run hgh, you keep all those gains

[gymnerd]

What are your stats, and what cycle did you have in mind?

[Mr.Rose]

^^ Stats. But in this order IMHO.

Genetics
Diet
Training routine
Test ( i will always put this first)
dbol/anadrol
tren
deca

[newb23]

@thetruth_i have heard great things about hgh, but the pure cost is enough to run me away from trying it, and yes i want to run 10 weeks of test enanthate at 500 mg per week
@gymnerd: im 5 foot 10 and weigh 160 pounds, i am 26 years and i work out 4-5 times a week, i am looking to gain mass and strength, i am very lean and muscular and it seems hard to put on weight, so after years of trying, i have decided to jump into anabolics.
i have been thinking of running 10-12 week cycle of test enanthat at 500 mg per week and jumpstarting with 5 weeks of anadrol or dianabol, and am thinking about deca but it will be very pricey and dont know if i want to spend that much, i also hear its good to run 500 iu of hcg every week while on cycle, anybodies thoughts?

[Big]

im 5 foot 10 and weigh 160 pounds

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=344896

[boxin23]

@thetruth_i have heard great things about hgh, but the pure cost is enough to run me away from trying it, and yes i want to run 10 weeks of test enanthate at 500 mg per week
@gymnerd: im 5 foot 10 and weigh 160 pounds, i am 26 years and i work out 4-5 times a week, i am looking to gain mass and strength, i am very lean and muscular and it seems hard to put on weight, so after years of trying, i have decided to jump into anabolics.
i have been thinking of running 10-12 week cycle of test enanthat at 500 mg per week and jumpstarting with 5 weeks of anadrol or dianabol, and am thinking about deca but it will be very pricey and dont know if i want to spend that much, i also hear its good to run 500 iu of hcg every week while on cycle, anybodies thoughts?

What does your diet look like? Can you post it? There is some really good help here for people that say they have a hard time gaining weight. You may want to check that out first. I know if I could go back and diet correctly before jumping on, I would have.

I am not sure about your current diet or your genetics, but I do know that at 5-10 and 160 you are very light. I am 5'6-1/2 and weigh 175. I think with some good old fashion eating you could get to a higher weight then try AAS if you feel you still need and that you have hit a wall.

I made the mistake of cycling while i was 140 and if i would have eaten correctly first i would probably be 200 now!

Just my thoughts .....like i said post up your diet for a looksy.

[nycap]

2 amps of sustanon monday 2 amps of sustanon thursday and 50mgs of dbol everytime you workout. do this for 6 weeks on and 6 weeks off, never stop lifting and eat right and youll get so huge you cant fit into your clothes anymore.

[cobra305]

^wtf kind of advice is that? Do not listen to that, learn how to eat right.

[Big]

2 amps of sustanon monday 2 amps of sustanon thursday and 50mgs of dbol everytime you workout. do this for 6 weeks on and 6 weeks off, never stop lifting and eat right and youll get so huge you cant fit into your clothes anymore.

good lord you can't be serious. please stop giving horrible advice on our forum. noobs, ignore everything this member suggests from now on.

[nycap]

good lord you can't be serious. please stop giving horrible advice on our forum. noobs, ignore everything this member suggests from now on.

dude your the one who shouldnt be posting here. everything i say is from personall experience. things i know are true cuase ive done them, seen my friends do them, and i will do again. everything you say sounds like it came out of a book or off an internet site. you dont sound like youve even used this stuff. your probably like some young ass dork who sits behind their computer trying to sound smart but who has never even did a simple dbol cycle. let me tell you, you dont know anything special, and before you tell someone to do something it should be something youve done and not something you read about.

[cobra305]

Nycap just when I thought people could not get stupider you prove me wrong, you are the man!

[marcus300]

dude your the one who shouldnt be posting here. everything i say is from personall experience. things i know are true cuase ive done them, seen my friends do them, and i will do again. everything you say sounds like it came out of a book or off an internet site. you dont sound like youve even used this stuff. your probably like some young ass dork who sits behind their computer trying to sound smart but who has never even did a simple dbol cycle. let me tell you, you dont know anything special, and before you tell someone to do something it should be something youve done and not something you read about.

Dont talk so stupid,

If you took anytime in researching steroids you would know your advice is shit and reckless, we try and steer newbies in the right direction here and your advice is alittle of the wall, so dont post if you have no idea what your on about, thanks

[shadey33]

Dont talk so stupid,

If you took anytime in researching steroids you would know your advice is shit and reckless, we try and steer newbies in the right direction here and your advice is alittle of the wall, so dont post if you have no idea what your on about, thanks

Well said ! Wisely put in his place !

[nycap]

is everybody on here trying to sell stuff for ug labs or something? anyone who has done this stuff knows that the best thing for bulking is test and dbol. if your disputing that then you obviusly dont know shit.

[Matt]

is everybody on here trying to sell stuff for ug labs or something? anyone who has done this stuff knows that the best thing for bulking is test and dbol. if your disputing that then you obviusly dont know shit.

The op is 160lbs, are you suggesting he should replace a solid diet for aas??

On this board we teach people to get the basics right before we teach them anything else..

At this time the op doesnt need aas, he needs diet help...

Lets do things right..

[MaNiCC]

is everybody on here trying to sell stuff for ug labs or something? anyone who has done this stuff knows that the best thing for bulking is test and dbol. if your disputing that then you obviusly dont know shit.

Seriously are you for fvkin Real? I love'd where you said big is a small nerd behind his computer, have you seen pictures of the man? cos if thats small fvk sign me up! I Get the feeling you wont last long here

[Charger527]

is everybody on here trying to sell stuff for ug labs or something? anyone who has done this stuff knows that the best thing for bulking is test and dbol. if your disputing that then you obviusly dont know shit.

Nah could not be more of the mark, heaps of carbs and protein and a little bit of fat will get you there, by rights you can bulk on anything its what you eat which decides if your bulking or cutting..

[Charger527]

at 160lbs just eat heaps mate, like eat so much that when you go to bed the next mourning you wake up and have to force breakfast in trying not to throw up, its not fun but thats the best way to do it, and it will put the pounds on, just try and keep it fairly clean and try not to throw to much of it up. After bout a month your body will get used to it so it wont hurt as much

[nycap]

Nah could not be more of the mark, heaps of carbs and protein and a little bit of fat will get you there, by rights you can bulk on anything its what you eat which decides if your bulking or cutting..

true; i didnt see where he said he was only 160 pounds. in that case i dont think he should even use any drugs. i just assumed that if someone is considering putting this stuff in their body then they must already be somewhat big and they hit a plateua. i didnt try roids until i was repping 6 plates on the bench qiute easily.

[marcus300]

is everybody on here trying to sell stuff for ug labs or something? anyone who has done this stuff knows that the best thing for bulking is test and dbol. if your disputing that then you obviusly dont know shit.

Have you looked back over your post's? if you do you will see that you have one big attitude thats why guys on here are quoting you!

If you can't take the steroids dont take them, because if they make you look and sound like you I wouldnt touch them again.

If you carry on with this attitude your time here will be short so in other words what you may understand better...buck up or fvck off

[Noles12]

oh hai there mr rosevelt

i see that u are giving good advice!

keep it up breh

wow cant wait til they put an IP ban on you or something

[Noles12]

i aint doing anything wrong bro

Actually you are. This is the third screen name you have used. You have also been banned before.

[Noles12]

lols at all my posts being deleted by the mods

lols bye bye

[newb23]

ok fellas, i guess i was just looking for the easy way out, in your honest opinion, do u think i could gain close to the same amount of weight just eating as much as possible, as i would have on using aas, i am real curious and im not trying to be smart i really want to know the answer, my diet is a problem, and i will change that, i just felt like aas would get my a quick weight gain, and if i kept eating alot i could keep most of it, so it would kind of jumpstart the weight gain, do you all see that as a problem?

[Matt]

ok fellas, i guess i was just looking for the easy way out, in your honest opinion, do u think i could gain close to the same amount of weight just eating as much as possible, as i would have on using aas, i am real curious and im not trying to be smart i really want to know the answer, my diet is a problem, and i will change that, i just felt like aas would get my a quick weight gain, and if i kept eating alot i could keep most of it, so it would kind of jumpstart the weight gain, do you all see that as a problem?

Without any question..

As long as its done right, go to the diet forum, post your full current diet and lets make a start there. You will get all the help you need..

[newb23]

wow i really appreciate this help, i would have never thought that, i will head over there right now, but to be honest, i do not have a set diet plan, i will post up some stuff over at the diet forum thanks everyone

[Herculezzz]

up the protein intake everyday 160g+ & eat more carb before you hit the gym ... when you get a good muscles gain & lets say your weight will be like 180+ lb then start your cycle .....

[juicyfruit71]

To answer your question, the answer is yes...in fact I think you could gain MORE from a proper diet than you will from aas with your current diet because you'll just lose it all. I've always felt that before anyone uses aas...they should go as far as they can naturally. If you're diet is shiit, then you definitely haven't gone as far as you can. If you do aas with your diet, it'll be a waste of time and money. Get your diet in check first, then think about aas.

[newb23]

ok i agree with you, i will put the cycle on hold for a while until i start seeing good gains from eating healthy. will anyone give me a good grocery list of food that is good to have, or go to the diet forum i mad and help me out there it will be greatly appreciated

[slimy]

There is a thread at the top of the diet section called " so you wanna learn how to diet". It's a video, about an hour long but broken down in small parts. Watch a few today, few tommorrow, take a week and finish the video. That is the single most important thread on this entire board. The information will literally blow your mind.

Good luck, you have a video to watch!

[Matt]

There is a thread at the top of the diet section called " so you wanna learn how to diet". It's a video, about an hour long but broken down in small parts. Watch a few today, few tommorrow, take a week and finish the video. That is the single most important thread on this entire board. The information will literally blow your mind.

Good luck, you have a video to watch!

X2, thats an excellent thread..

[newb23]

thanks yall i relaly appreciate it, ill go check out this video

[cybernox]

There you see a nice good newbie who'd follow advice and not fight back.

You'll definitely gain weight if you go on with the DIET SECTION.

[newb23]

lol thanks, i believe experience is the best form of gaining knowledge, so if u listen to the people with experiene you will be alot better off, just watched the first video and it was pretty interesting, ill keep yall updated on my weight and diet plan and we will see how this goes

[Big]

excellent, keep us posted

[cybernox]

lol thanks, i believe experience is the best form of gaining knowledge, so if u listen to the people with experiene you will be alot better off, just watched the first video and it was pretty interesting, ill keep yall updated on my weight and diet plan and we will see how this goes

thats really good buddy. Workout good and not too much. Need recovery . then use supplements.

[marcus300]

lol thanks, i believe experience is the best form of gaining knowledge, so if u listen to the people with experiene you will be alot better off, just watched the first video and it was pretty interesting, ill keep yall updated on my weight and diet plan and we will see how this goes

Well done, credit to you and your mature head on your shoulders...

[boz]

2 amps of sustanon monday 2 amps of sustanon thursday and 50mgs of dbol everytime you workout. do this for 6 weeks on and 6 weeks off, never stop lifting and eat right and youll get so huge you cant fit into your clothes anymore.

Wow at these in appropriate advices i have read, lol ahhh if your were an asshole before u touched the gear, what's that going to make u on the gear, i think this call's for a degree at college.

[newb23]

well i ate so much yesterday i thought i was going to throw up if anybody even mentioned food around me, this morning i took the biggest dump of my life haha, gotta go watch another section of that video today but i thought i should report my official stats before i eat my a$$ off to let yall now how im doing, this morning weighed 164 and went to the doc yesterday and he told me i grew a little over an inch, so i am now 5 foot 11 n a half, ill probably post new stats every week so yall can chime in and let me know if i am doing it right if yall want, preciate all the help