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    Deca/test/var cycle critique VETS please

    Hey guys looking for criticism... constructive...

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    220 lbs
    fairly lean, six pack, maybe 8-12%

    just finished test and var for 10 weeks with nolva pct. Gained 10-15 lean pounds and kept all of it so far, spare maybe 2-3 lbs water.

    training and diet are good, I see a personal trainer/ nutritionist who is a retired bodybuilder and a certified competition judge and I follow the program given to me like the bible.

    This will be my third cycle and aiming to bulk for my debut in competitive bodybuilding, my first comp is just over a year away so I should be able to do some serious growth by then. Here it is:

    300mg deca weeks 1-12
    600mg test E weeks 1-14
    30 mg anavar ED weeks 11-15
    -var taken thru 15 up to day before pct

    weeks 16/17/18
    nolva 40/30/20
    clomid 100/50/50

    the deca + test will be shot e3d while the var will be taken 20mg in the AM and 20 mg in the PM

    I have adex and caber in my tickle trunk just in case

    thoughts?

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    edit: var should say 20 mg am and 10 mg pm

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    i would bump the deca to 400-500mg. the var to 40mg and run it weeks 11-16. post cycle starts week 17. extend the SERMs one week and consider hcg tho not a must.

    other then that fairly well thought out cycle.

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    Your not planning on starting it immediately after your last cycle are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noles12 View Post
    Your not planning on starting it immediately after your last cycle are you?
    no no, lol, time on = time off

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    thanks peachfuzz for the input, i've got lots of time to plan so I'll start researching your proposals

    anyone else feel free to throw in two cents, I'll consider anything

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    Well I'm gonna up the var to 40 and go 4 weeks with PCT. Not satisfied the doses need to be changed. I've never ran deca before and I can always go up, but the long halflife makes it hard to go down.

    Anymore input anybody?

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    var and deca doses are still low, imo

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    what doses did you have in mind Big? keeping in mind I've never used deca before

    I'm nit as scared with the var

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    Id bump the deca to 400mgs and the var to 40/50mgs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thenextcutler View Post
    what doses did you have in mind Big? keeping in mind I've never used deca before

    I'm nit as scared with the var
    your last cycle was t400 and var correct?

    how much of each?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peachfuzz View Post
    your last cycle was t400 and var correct?

    how much of each?
    var was 20 mg, which worked "ok"

    t400 started at 375mg (.4ml e3d). I started low cuz I had ever used test before. The only side effect I experienced was a bit of acne so at week 4 I moved it up to .5ml e3d which was just under 500, like 475mg/week. Stayed there for the remainder of the 12 week cycle. Maybe I don't even need to do 600?

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    Maybe deca at 400 wouldn't be so scary, most of these replies suggest it

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    I'd also bump Deca and Var. 400mg of Deca worked great. Last time I did Var started at 75mg ED. More isn't always better, but these are where I started and the results were fantastic.

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