Dbol, test and deca first cycle

**Leeroy187** · 05-21-2010, 06:01 AM

Hi everyone. I am 3 weeks in my first ever cycle.
I was told by a friend who has been using steroids for years to do a dbol , test and deca cycle for maximum gains. This is the cycle i am on!
30mg dbol a day. Weeks 1-6
400mg deca a wk. Weeks 1-10
500mg test a wk. Weeks 1-10
i done a bit of reseatch b4 my cycle and alot of people were recomending this cycle, so i started it.
After doing more reasearch i think that mayby this is too much!
I am 3.5 weeks in and i am already seeing very good gains!
Can people please tell me if this is a good or bad cycle.

**marcus300** · 05-21-2010, 06:12 AM

Yes thats a bad cycle for a first timer, who ever is advicing you I wouldnt listen to them again, you should also do research before doing any kind of cycle.

What are your stats?

***D7M*** · 05-21-2010, 07:31 AM

Ah the bread and butter cycle.

You don't need that many compounds for your first cycle.

What are your stats?

age?
height?
weight?
bf%?
years training?
pct?

**MaNiCC** · 05-21-2010, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Leeroy187

Hi everyone. I am 3 weeks in my first ever cycle.
I was told by a friend who has been using steroids for years to do a dbol , test and deca cycle for maximum gains. This is the cycle i am on!
30mg dbol a day. Weeks 1-6
400mg deca a wk. Weeks 1-10
500mg test a wk. Weeks 1-10
i done a bit of reseatch b4 my cycle and alot of people were recomending this cycle, so i started it.
After doing more reasearch i think that mayby this is too much!
I am 3.5 weeks in and i am already seeing very good gains!
Can people please tell me if this is a good or bad cycle.

Which idiots recommended this cycle. Stats?

You should only run one compound for a first cycle. people usually advise doing test for 12 weeks at 500mg

What pct do you have planned?

**Leeroy187** · 05-21-2010, 08:41 AM

Im 25 years old, 6ft tall, 195 pounds. Bf????? Im slim, quite toned but wana get bigger. Ive been training for 2 years. And pritty much do 5 days training a week. I have no pct planned yet? Wat stack would you recommend??

**sigman roid** · 05-21-2010, 08:58 AM

As you've already started this cycle i suggest you either stop the deca at week 10 and continue your test until week 12 or stop the deca at week 8 and run the test until week 10.As for pct a standard nolva/clomid pct
nolva
40/20/20/20
clomid
100/50/50/50.
Thats 40mg nolva 100mg clomid per day for 1 week
then 20mg nolva and 50 mg clomid for the next 3 weeks.

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 05-21-2010, 09:51 AM

if you don't do pct after your cycle ends, you are in for a world of hurting when you come off

**boz** · 05-22-2010, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by sigman roid

As you've already started this cycle i suggest you either stop the deca at week 10 and continue your test until week 12 or stop the deca at week 8 and run the test until week 10.As for pct a standard nolva/clomid pct
nolva
40/20/20/20
clomid
100/50/50/50.
Thats 40mg nolva 100mg clomid per day for 1 week
then 20mg nolva and 50 mg clomid for the next 3 weeks.

In this case sig, cause he has used so many compounds, do u think his clomid should be
100/100/50/50
and nolva 40/40/20/20 so first fortnight double the dosages?

**Leeroy187** · 05-22-2010, 04:01 AM

Do you recomend me getting clomid and nolva or just use one of them? If just one which woild you recomend?

**Matt** · 05-22-2010, 05:42 AM

Both...

**turbot** · 05-22-2010, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by Leeroy187

Hi everyone. I am 3 weeks in my first ever cycle.
I was told by a friend who has been using steroids for years to do a dbol , test and deca cycle for maximum gains. This is the cycle i am on!
30mg dbol a day. Weeks 1-6
400mg deca a wk. Weeks 1-10
500mg test a wk. Weeks 1-10
i done a bit of reseatch b4 my cycle and alot of people were recomending this cycle, so i started it.
After doing more reasearch i think that mayby this is too much!
I am 3.5 weeks in and i am already seeing very good gains!
Can people please tell me if this is a good or bad cycle.

Only 500mgs of test to 400mgs of deca sounds like a good recipe for deca dick....I'm on the same cycle, but was told I should use a 2:1 test to deca ratio to help avoid it. Do you have any symptons?

***D7M*** · 05-22-2010, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by turbot

Only 500mgs of test to 400mgs of deca sounds like a good recipe for deca dick....I'm on the same cycle, but was told I should use a 2:1 test to deca ratio to help avoid it. Do you have any symptons?

probably one of the most mis-understood and parroted things around.

one doesn't need a 2:1 ratio.

he's still injecting 500mg test a week....he should be fine.

**Matt** · 05-22-2010, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by D7M

probably one of the most mis-understood and parroted things around.

one doesn't need a 2:1 ratio.

he's still injecting 500mg test a week....he should be fine.

X2, 250mgs of test and he wouldnt suffer..

People often use test just to replace the test they loose from being shut down at low doses..

**Leeroy187** · 05-22-2010, 08:15 AM

No i havent had any symptons of deca dick or any side affects. I am only on my 4th week though. I was thinking of stopping the deca at week 8 and continue the test until week 10. Does this sound good??? I will bye sum clomid and nolva then for post cycle. Anyone know where i can purchase these. Cheers everyone for there input!!

**gixxerboy1** · 05-22-2010, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Leeroy187

No i havent had any symptons of deca dick or any side affects. I am only on my 4th week though. I was thinking of stopping the deca at week 8 and continue the test until week 10. Does this sound good??? I will bye sum clomid and nolva then for post cycle. Anyone know where i can purchase these. Cheers everyone for there input!!

the ar-r banner on the top right.

**Leeroy187** · 05-22-2010, 11:10 AM

Is clomid short for clomiphene and nolva short for nolvadex ???
Im trying to bye sum in ar-r banner in the top right corner! Has anyone brought anything from this site before?

**c-Z** · 05-22-2010, 11:18 AM

Just click on the words in blue in your post, clomid and nolva. thats what you need.

**gixxerboy1** · 05-22-2010, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Leeroy187

Is clomid short for clomiphene and nolva short for nolvadex ???
Im trying to bye sum in ar-r banner in the top right corner! Has anyone brought anything from this site before?

Yes that is what they are short for. And yes alot of people on here order from there. They are good

**Leeroy187** · 05-22-2010, 11:22 AM

Thanx mate!!

**c-Z** · 05-22-2010, 11:22 AM

There is a separate section for ar if you have questions about anything. many of users have used them

**carbo** · 05-22-2010, 01:23 PM

Leeroy187

You're on a very solid bulk cycle, I will be starting a similar one in few weeks

Make sure you get your PCT in check

Keeps us posted on your gains/sides

Cheers,