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05-21-2010, 02:22 PM #1
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Help with friend who doesn't want to run a PCT
I am worried about my friend. He is doing test/deca 12 wk right now and wants to jump into a Tren /Sust cycle immediately with no PCT.
What could I say to him that would change his mind? He is in his mid 20s but hard headed like a teenager.
PS this really is for a friend so please none of that "oh its for a friend wink" type garbage out of the peanut gallery
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05-21-2010, 02:26 PM #2
If he really is that stubborn and is set on doing it more than likely its too late. Just explain how after not producing test for that long of a period could cause him to never restart it again. Which then leads to weekly injections for the rest of his life which i am assuming will be close to 50 years. It also leads to future libido problems possible impotency and many other unwanted longterm sides
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05-21-2010, 02:27 PM #3
#1 if I was going to do that..... i'd leave the test and not go to sust.
#2 He'd be using 2 19nor compounds..... they're the hardest hitting on the body.
#3 He'd be on cycle for an extended period of time..... making recovery more difficult
#4 He's risking testicular dysfunction and the possibility of not having kids in the future.
If he's fine with the risks..... let him doit..... it's not your body.
~Haz~
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05-21-2010, 03:12 PM #4
Oh for a friend "wink"....
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05-21-2010, 03:15 PM #5
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I always love the"a friend" threads
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05-21-2010, 03:34 PM #6
it amazes me how many people abuse steroids . I was scared to death of them before using them and made sure to know everything about them before doing a cycle. I don't see how people can be so careless about their health
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05-21-2010, 04:52 PM #7
I know what ya mean about the abusing your body part. I have buddies that cycle, then come off 2 or 3 weeks, then back on. They have done this for a few years now. Of course they are huge but im looking at the long term. Thats why im on here reading and planning a diet before I even think of another cycle. I have only done 3 cycles in 5 years that was pretty much a waste because of lack of knowledge and the fact that I got lazy after prolly due to no pct. Good luck
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05-21-2010, 05:18 PM #8
I know a few guys in their early 20's who ran extended cycles with 19 nors and could not recover even with good PCTs. After several agonizing months they went on TRT. I can't imagine being on TRT in my 20's.
Does he have any plans on having a family someday? He might be able, but not without some help.
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05-21-2010, 09:37 PM #9
testicular disfunction and bitch tits
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05-22-2010, 03:24 AM #10
Ya he is in real danger, just put it to him blunt, does he ever want to kids?
Does he want a good sex life?
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So far so good, they seem to be doing what they’re supposed to.
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