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    Help with friend who doesn't want to run a PCT

    I am worried about my friend. He is doing test/deca 12 wk right now and wants to jump into a Tren /Sust cycle immediately with no PCT.

    What could I say to him that would change his mind? He is in his mid 20s but hard headed like a teenager.

    PS this really is for a friend so please none of that "oh its for a friend wink" type garbage out of the peanut gallery

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    If he really is that stubborn and is set on doing it more than likely its too late. Just explain how after not producing test for that long of a period could cause him to never restart it again. Which then leads to weekly injections for the rest of his life which i am assuming will be close to 50 years. It also leads to future libido problems possible impotency and many other unwanted longterm sides

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherrydrpepper View Post
    I am worried about my friend. He is doing test/deca 12 wk right now and wants to jump into a Tren /Sust cycle immediately with no PCT.

    What could I say to him that would change his mind? He is in his mid 20s but hard headed like a teenager.

    PS this really is for a friend so please none of that "oh its for a friend wink" type garbage out of the peanut gallery
    #1 if I was going to do that..... i'd leave the test and not go to sust.

    #2 He'd be using 2 19nor compounds..... they're the hardest hitting on the body.

    #3 He'd be on cycle for an extended period of time..... making recovery more difficult

    #4 He's risking testicular dysfunction and the possibility of not having kids in the future.

    If he's fine with the risks..... let him doit..... it's not your body.

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    Oh for a friend "wink"....

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    I always love the"a friend" threads

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    it amazes me how many people abuse steroids . I was scared to death of them before using them and made sure to know everything about them before doing a cycle. I don't see how people can be so careless about their health

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    I know what ya mean about the abusing your body part. I have buddies that cycle, then come off 2 or 3 weeks, then back on. They have done this for a few years now. Of course they are huge but im looking at the long term. Thats why im on here reading and planning a diet before I even think of another cycle. I have only done 3 cycles in 5 years that was pretty much a waste because of lack of knowledge and the fact that I got lazy after prolly due to no pct. Good luck

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    I know a few guys in their early 20's who ran extended cycles with 19 nors and could not recover even with good PCTs. After several agonizing months they went on TRT. I can't imagine being on TRT in my 20's.

    Does he have any plans on having a family someday? He might be able, but not without some help.

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    testicular disfunction and bitch tits

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    Ya he is in real danger, just put it to him blunt, does he ever want to kids?
    Does he want a good sex life?

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