20 week Slingshot Cycle

[asto_86]

Hey everyone, new member here! I have ran a couple cycles of PH's in the past year and have decided to get serious with injecting. I have studied Ronnie's STS sticky here and I think it is one hell of a logical system and having been making a list, checking it twice, and I think I have quite the cycle designed for my first.

I have attached a .pdf of what I plan to do. The 1st cycle is straight Test E @ 500mgs with Arimidex eod at .25mgs for 8 weeks.
Next comes the deload dropping test down to 250mgs and keeping arimidex the same for weeks 9 and 10.

The next cycle, weeks 11- 18, starts the same as the first but with the added dbol at 20mgs ed for the first 4 weeks, then switching to winny at 60mgs for the last 4 weeks of the 2nd reload all while test is at 500mgs and arimidex is at .25mg eod.
Then again, another deload the same as the first for 2 weeks completing the 20 week blast.
Full blown PCT starts immediately with HCG at 2500ius each week for 2 weeks dosed eod, Clomid and Nolva ran with it but extended to 4 weeks.


So there it is, just curious what you guys think. Goal is to gain about 15lbs while keeping body fat under 10%.
Current Stats:

Age: 23
Height: 5'10"
Current weight: 175lbs
Bodyfat: see avitar
Diet: Very Clean!

Some more specific goals:
Keep waist under 32 inches
Get arms over 16 inches cold (been stuck at 15 flexed for a while now)
Develop caps on delts and bring out definition in my quads.


Cliffs:
Check pdf attachment for cycle


EDIT**
Ronnie advised to not start arimidex until week 3 as a method of front loading with estorgen to increase androgen receptor sites, and he recommended to drop winny and run dbol the whole 8 weeks of reload 2. I updated the pdf for anyone wanting to see it on paper.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

You are ready to cycle for sure, but why not just run test-e at 500mg for 12 weeks and call it a cycle? I don't think you need to be on 20 straight weeks with all that.

[asto_86]

The only thing I am really considering changing is removing the dbol and winny at the end. Im unsure if the 2nd reloading period must be with more anabolics for first time users to see continued gains. Otherwise I like the way everything else looks.

The reason I am against doing a 12 week cycle is that most of the gains slow up at 8 weeks as that is when myostatin levels are up, hence the deload to lower myostatin, then the 2nd reload to continue with the gains.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

The only thing I am really considering changing is removing the dbol and winny at the end. Im unsure if the 2nd reloading period must be with more anabolics for first time users to see continued gains. Otherwise I like the way everything else looks.

The reason I am against doing a 12 week cycle is that most of the gains slow up at 8 weeks as that is when myostatin levels are up, hence the deload to lower myostatin, then the 2nd reload to continue with the gains.

you will make great gains with a 12 week cycle though. I am not convinced they will be much better with your strategy (though I have not tried it or know anyone who has). Plus you will have to be off for a longer period of time afterward. Technically what you are doing is cruising for 4 weeks mid-cycle and then upping the dose again. I am not sure the 4 weeks would be enough to jumpstart your gains again.

Just my opinion though. I will let others take a crack at this one. Like I said, you look great and appear very ready to cycle to me

[BG]

I dont think its worth the risk of making recovery harder your first time around, I say save that idea for your third cycle later on down the road. Get a ten weeker in, get used to injecting, see how much your body aromises, ect ect.

[asto_86]

So you think I should just do the first half of my plan then a full pct? It's a sound idea.. if it ends up not being for me, having only 10 weeks of gear as opposed to 20+ weeks would be better. I dunno though, it is tough for me to refute the sts system as it looks great on paper and according to Ronnie.

For anyone who hasn't seen the thread, it really is a great read!
the sticky is at the top of this section titled "you'll want to read this"

I posted my cycle in there and am awaiting Ronnie's reply. Ultimately I will most likely do what he says, but I'd still like to hear everyone's opinion on it to present to him.. depending on what he recommends.

[russiandave]

My only issue is you are 23 and I am thinking with a bit of tweaking to your diet you probably could achieve your goals without aas. Just my opinion

[AlphaMaleDawg]

My only issue is you are 23 and I am thinking with a bit of tweaking to your diet you probably could achieve your goals without aas. Just my opinion

I don't know, I mean he is ripped and has some solid size. I was basically his stats before my first cycle (5'9 173lbs) with his bf% and the same age. I felt like no matter what I tried, I couldn't build more muscle. And considering he has already done pro-hormones, this is technically not even his first cycle. I would assume his diet is very good considering the way he looks. Just my opinion though

and op, Ronnie knows his $hit so you are in good hands if you want to take his advice

[asto_86]

I don't know, I mean he is ripped and has some solid size. I was basically his stats before my first cycle (5'9 173lbs) with his bf% and the same age. I felt like no matter what I tried, I couldn't build more muscle. And considering he has already done pro-hormones, this is technically not even his first cycle. I would assume his diet is very good considering the way he looks. Just my opinion though

and op, Ronnie knows his $hit so you are in good hands if you want to take his advice

thanks man. Ya I am pretty much right where you were physically and mentally. How long ago was your first cycle and how many have you done since, if you dont mind? What are your stats now? By the looks of your avi you are doing great if you started where I am.

I believe ya about Ronnie.. that is one amazing thread he has stickied up there. Reading it front to back gives a newb like me a very solid grasp on what to do. Im hoping to hear from him soon

[Archangel.]

I'm right in the middle of my 20 week blast, and I love it. I read that thread front to back, and check it every day for more info. Ronnie is probably the slickest guy on here when it comes to aas IMO. This is also my first ever injectable cycle too bud. I would do it if that's what Ronnie advised, you'll love it.

p.s. Try not to shake to much during your first injection lol. I know I sure did as I was looking down the end of a 1.5 inch syringe. Don't fear the needle

[asto_86]

I'm right in the middle of my 20 week blast, and I love it. I read that thread front to back, and check it every day for more info. Ronnie is probably the slickest guy on here when it comes to aas IMO. This is also my first ever injectable cycle too bud. I would do it if that's what Ronnie advised, you'll love it.

p.s. Try not to shake to much during your first injection lol. I know I sure did as I was looking down the end of a 1.5 inch syringe. Don't fear the needle

lol, good to hear!

Im not scared of the needle, but that won't stop me from shaking while trying to do it myself.

[russiandave]

Good luck bro

[asto_86]

Good luck bro

Thanks!

Got a critique from Ronnie, see 1st post!

[AlphaMaleDawg]

thanks man. Ya I am pretty much right where you were physically and mentally. How long ago was your first cycle and how many have you done since, if you dont mind? What are your stats now? By the looks of your avi you are doing great if you started where I am.

I believe ya about Ronnie.. that is one amazing thread he has stickied up there. Reading it front to back gives a newb like me a very solid grasp on what to do. Im hoping to hear from him soon

thanks man. I am currently on my second cycle (week 9 ending today). My first was simply test-e 500mg for 12 weeks. now it's dbol 40mg 1-4, deca 400mg 1-12, test-e 625mg 1-14. Right now I am 192lbs with close to the same bf%, maybe a tad more now but not much noticeable. I never ran a ph before AAS

good luck to you. I am curious to see how your cycle goes since I am not familiar with a slingshot cycle