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    cbwolf is offline New Member
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    Help with my first cycle please

    I'm just about to start my first cycle and want to make sure i have considered everything prior to doing so.

    Stats:

    Age: 26
    Height: 6'1"
    Weight: 225lbs
    B/F: Approx 15%
    Training: 10 years

    Cycle:

    I've decided to do a Sust/Deca first cycle as follows:

    Week 1-12: 300mg Deca once a week
    Week 1-14: 600mg Sust EOD

    PCT:

    As i understand it, i should start PCT approx 2 weeks AFTER my last shot of Sust - correct?

    I have Nolvadex , Clomid and Arimidex on hand - any advice on what dosages to take on these? i was thinking:

    Clomid: 300/100/50/50 (4 weeks total)
    Nolvadex: 50/20/20/20
    Arimidex: .25/.25/.25/.25

    I understand that the 300mg/600mg cycle is probably fairly strong for a first timer, but considering i've been training for 10 years and have a very solid base to build off - If im going to shut off my natural test production i may as well make the most of it.

    Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated!

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    Number of years training does not matter for how much to take your first cycle or what to take.

    Deca is NOT recommended for a first cycle either. Keep it simple. If you are already in the condition you describe you will get GREAT gains from Test alone at 300mg - 500mg Max.

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    What are the reasons for Deca not being recommended for a first timer? (apart from not knowing which substance is causing any side effects)?

    Also, if i do Sust only, will the Deca store for 6 months until another cycle? or would i need to get rid of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbwolf View Post
    What are the reasons for Deca not being recommended for a first timer? (apart from not knowing which substance is causing any side effects)?

    Also, if i do Sust only, will the Deca store for 6 months until another cycle? or would i need to get rid of it?
    It will store for 6 months, 1 year or more without a problem unless it's already 2+ years old. LOL

    #1 becuase it's pretty strong. Why not start with Test and get great results then the 2nd cycle adding the Deca and get even Better results. It's the same reason for not using Tren on a first cycle and YES also so you know how your body is going to react not only the good way but also to the negative sides.

    If you are in the shape you say you will see dramatic changes using Test only. If you do Test and Deca yes you will see even bigger/faster gains but also to the point so will everyone else and no one will have any doubt about you doing roids.

    Keep doing like you have been doing. Dont be in a rush. It's a marathon, not a spring. Keep the same mind set you have for the last 10 year.

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