Got infected - What do I do with the Gear

[endus]

Did a search but didn't see any post about what to do with the gear. Here's what happened,

1st two shots - 200mg of Test E using 1" needle - using clean protocol, everything was fine other than slight soreness. On my 3rd shot - on my left quad, it got infected (red, hot, swollen). I went to a doctors and they gave me a tetanus shot and antibiotic.

The only difference between shot #1-2 and #3 was that I used a hydrogen Peroxide for the first two shots and also cleaned the needle with it. For the 3rd shot, I've used a rubbing alcohol (70%) and didn't wipe down the needle (new needle). I also used different needle for drawing the Test E.

Based on my 1st two shot, its not a bad gear (since I didn't get infection on that). Question is - what do I do with the rest of vial? Do I throw it out and start with a new bottle (maybe its contaminated now)?

Also, when you open a new vial (or inject pin into it), do you refrigerate them?

Thank guys

[Hazard]

YOU NEVER WIPE THE NEEDLE DOWN!

The needle is already sterile..... you can't make it "more sterile" by wiping it down with anything.....

you need to wipe the top of the vial and your injection site. You then stick a needle into the vial and draw out the desired ammount. you then cap the needle and switch to another needle. uncap the new needle and inject......

thats proper protocol.....

~Haz~

[Bossman]

Did a search but didn't see any post about what to do with the gear. Here's what happened,

1st two shots - 200mg of Test E using 1" needle - using clean protocol, everything was fine other than slight soreness. On my 3rd shot - on my left quad, it got infected (red, hot, swollen). I went to a doctors and they gave me a tetanus shot and antibiotic.

The only difference between shot #1-2 and #3 was that I used a hydrogen Peroxide for the first two shots and also cleaned the needle with it. For the 3rd shot, I've used a rubbing alcohol (70%) and didn't wipe down the needle (new needle). I also used different needle for drawing the Test E.

You are using a new needle with every injection right? Just wondering why you would wipe the needle. The needle is sterile out of the package. Wipe the top of the vial thoroughly with alcohol, wipe the injection site with alcohol, draw the compound with a new needle, swap out with a new needle for the injection, then pitch the syringe and both needles.

If I got an infection from a vial of gear, I would toss that vial. Why take a chance at another infection?

Ahh, you beat me Haz....

[Hazard]

You are using a new needle with every injection right? Just wondering why you would wipe the needle. The needle is sterile out of the package. Wipe the top of the vial thoroughly with alcohol, wipe the injection site with alcohol, draw the compound with a new needle, swap out with a new needle for the injection, then pitch the syringe and both needles.

If I got an infection from a vial of gear, I would toss that vial. Why take a chance at another infection?

Ahh, you beat me Haz....

LOL and our protocols are exactly the same...... we're right

~Haz~

[cherrydrpepper]

Did a search but didn't see any post about what to do with the gear. Here's what happened,

1st two shots - 200mg of Test E using 1" needle - using clean protocol, everything was fine other than slight soreness. On my 3rd shot - on my left quad, it got infected (red, hot, swollen). I went to a doctors and they gave me a tetanus shot and antibiotic.

The only difference between shot #1-2 and #3 was that I used a hydrogen Peroxide for the first two shots and also cleaned the needle with it. For the 3rd shot, I've used a rubbing alcohol (70%) and didn't wipe down the needle (new needle). I also used different needle for drawing the Test E.

Based on my 1st two shot, its not a bad gear (since I didn't get infection on that). Question is - what do I do with the rest of vial? Do I throw it out and start with a new bottle (maybe its contaminated now)?

Also, when you open a new vial (or inject pin into it), do you refrigerate them?

Thank guys

I had almost the exact same bs happen to me. I felt that it was caused by three things:

1. I swabbed the inject site with alcohol but didn't wait for it to dry properly.
2. I didn't swab the vial
3. Injected really really quick when it should have been more like 15-20 seconds (slowly).

[endus]

YOU NEVER WIPE THE NEEDLE DOWN!

The needle is already sterile..... you can't make it "more sterile" by wiping it down with anything.....

you need to wipe the top of the vial and your injection site. You then stick a needle into the vial and draw out the desired ammount. you then cap the needle and switch to another needle. uncap the new needle and inject......

thats proper protocol.....

~Haz~

Thats was a mistake - for my first shot, I did wiped down with peroxide. The shot #2 and 3 I didn't. The rest was same as I read that stuff here. I wipe down the top of the vial with cotton ball that has hydrogen peroxide. Insert a new needle, draw, remove. Put the new needle, remove the lid and inject. I still don't know how I got infected, I was so careful.

I got enough gear so chuck this one?

The other question - Do you put it in refrigerator after 1st draw? or in room temperature. Also, is there anything I should be doing to cover the top of the vial? since these don't have a screw top, the rubber is exposed.

[breakbones]

Send your gear to me

[Hazard]

Thats was a mistake - for my first shot, I did wiped down with peroxide. The shot #2 and 3 I didn't. The rest was same as I read that stuff here. I wipe down the top of the vial with cotton ball that has hydrogen peroxide. Insert a new needle, draw, remove. Put the new needle, remove the lid and inject. I still don't know how I got infected, I was so careful.

I got enough gear so chuck this one?

The other question - Do you put it in refrigerator after 1st draw? or in room temperature. Also, is there anything I should be doing to cover the top of the vial? since these don't have a screw top, the rubber is exposed.

There is no need to refrigerate. They more than likely used BA (Benzyl Alcohol) as a solvent to dissolve the raw hormone. This BA prevents bacteria from growing in the vial.

As long as you wipe the rubber stopper each time.... you should be ok leaving it exposed. I always use alcohol pads to wipe everything down. Hydrogen peroxide can actually kill live skin cells.....

~Haz~

[Swifto]

Jeez...

I thought I had seen/read it all.

I actually wash the site before injecting, or have a shower proir.

I then use an anti-bacterial foam (handheld thing they have in hospitals). Then swab the area, swab the vial stopper for 15-20secs, draw, change pin to 25g, inject slowly, pull out, place another swab over and massage.

[endus]

Jeez...

I thought I had seen/read it all.

I actually wash the site before injecting, or have a shower proir.

I then use an anti-bacterial foam (handheld thing they have in hospitals). Then swab the area, swab the vial stopper for 15-20secs, draw, change pin to 25g, inject slowly, pull out, place another swab over and massage.

I also shower and use anti-bacterial soap (not medical, dial) and though I was being really careful. I'm almost gun shy now. I will still do it but even after all that precaution, I still get infected - jeesh.

[endus]

I had almost the exact same bs happen to me. I felt that it was caused by three things:

1. I swabbed the inject site with alcohol but didn't wait for it to dry properly.
2. I didn't swab the vial
3. Injected really really quick when it should have been more like 15-20 seconds (slowly).

Other than wiping it first time, done those carefully but I'll have that etched on my forehead

For those who complained about injection pain, its nothing compared to un-comfortable feeling you get from infection. It feels like your skin's going to pop from swelling.

[Swifto]

I also shower and use anti-bacterial soap (not medical, dial) and though I was being really careful. I'm almost gun shy now. I will still do it but even after all that precaution, I still get infected - jeesh.

Was the AAS UGL or Pharm Grade? Or homebrew?

If you have done everything right in regards to being sterile (sterile procedure, AAS, etc..) you wont run into problems ever. Something some where has to breakdown, down the line to get an infection. You, or the AAS will not be sterile.

[endus]

Was the AAS UGL or Pharm Grade? Or homebrew?

If you have done everything right in regards to being sterile (sterile procedure, AAS, etc..) you wont run into problems ever. Something some where has to breakdown, down the line to get an infection. You, or the AAS will not be sterile.

I have both, domestic pharma and International UGL that my buddy did with no problem. I'm now doing UGL version.

One thing I did think of - 3rd shot, I've introduced a latex glove thinking it will be safer. Only problem is that gloves came from my basement and was in a open box. Only think I could think of at this point.

[Hazard]

I have both, domestic pharma and International UGL that my buddy did with no problem. I'm now doing UGL version.

One thing I did think of - 3rd shot, I've introduced a latex glove thinking it will be safer. Only problem is that gloves came from my basement and was in a open box. Only think I could think of at this point.

LOL christ..... rubber gloves?

wash your hand..... swab the vial..... swab your injection site..... don't let the needles touch anything else. Thats all you need to do.....

If you still get an infection..... it's gotta be the gear.

~Haz~

[russiandave]

Sorry to hear man. I alchohol the vial. Fill the needle. New alchohol swab my injection site and pin away.

I think you'll be ok from now on out

[cherrydrpepper]

Jeez...

I thought I had seen/read it all.

I actually wash the site before injecting, or have a shower proir.

I then use an anti-bacterial foam (handheld thing they have in hospitals). Then swab the area, swab the vial stopper for 15-20secs, draw, change pin to 25g, inject slowly, pull out, place another swab over and massage.

Is anyone else swapping the pin after they draw? Makes sense to me after seeing the blown up pictures of what a single stick does to the pin but seems like a lot of trouble.

[lovbyts]

Is anyone else swapping the pin after they draw? Makes sense to me after seeing the blown up pictures of what a single stick does to the pin but seems like a lot of trouble.

Yup, I didnt use to until I discovered how much EASIER the pin goes in if it's 100% fresh/new.

I dont even jab any more That is the part that always made me nervous, the jab and would take me 5-10 minutes to do it and 100s practice jabs. LOL

Now with a new/fresh pin I just touch it to the leg and SLOWLY push and it goes in like a hot knife into butter.

Now if I ever come close to a nerve I just STOP, wait a sec and continue and it seems to move out of the way.

[Big]

As long as you swab the rubber stopper each time.... you should be ok departing it exposed. I habitually use alcoholic beverage pads to swab everything down. Hydrogen peroxide can really murder reside skin cells

alcoholic beverage pads?

[russiandave]

alcoholic beverage pads?

Lmao it's the end of the weekend. Partying still on his mind.

And yup I change pins each time after the draw. Takes five seconds. Makes less sense not to do it.

Hell I wish I could do it w my sub q hgh injections but the insulin pins I have are one piece.

[lovbyts]

I also go one step further but not as far as others it seems, I dont use cotton balls or pads and soak them in alcohol, I by the pre packaged pads that are sterile. They are cheap.

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

OP:

Your gear will be fine. Continue using it (unless youve tossed it). If you received antibiotics from the doctor you'll be covered from any bacteria or whatever.

And dont refrigerate your gear. Store it in a drawer in your bedroom or something. In a cool dry place away from sunlight.

[Hazard]

OP:

Your gear will be fine. Continue using it (unless youve tossed it). If you received antibiotics from the doctor you'll be covered from any bacteria or whatever.

And dont refrigerate your gear. Store it in a drawer in your bedroom or something. In a cool dry place away from sunlight.

Whos that in your avy? just wondering cuz I have this overwhelming urge to see her naked.....

~Haz~

[endus]

I also go one step further but not as far as others it seems, I dont use cotton balls or pads and soak them in alcohol, I by the pre packaged pads that are sterile. They are cheap.

Just bought some today.

As for other comments - I haven't thrown out the gear but like I said before, I'm now super gun shy. I was so careful with things so I don't know how I could of missed a step.

I don't think its the gear to tell the truth. I've shot twice in two different location (right quad, right delt) and one I got infected, left quad.

The swelling is down now but its still bit uncomfortable to walk and that quad looks like it belongs in big fat slop (right quad is all cut up - funny look).

I'll try my left delt tomorrow morning - I guess only one way to find out and I'm on anti-biotic anyway, so I'll probably never know.

Thanks guys, wish I had a smoother 1st cycle.

[matt77]

Stop using peroxide period!! Its not meant to be used in that manner. Use the step guys have givin you above. No gloves and all that crap. I'd be willing to bet that it was either swabbing the pin, using a dirty glove, using peroxide or a combo of all of them that caused the problem.

If you think its the gear get a whatman, sterile vial from AR-R and filter it.

[Relax007]

Is anyone else swapping the pin after they draw? Makes sense to me after seeing the blown up pictures of what a single stick does to the pin but seems like a lot of trouble.

I want to see these pics.

[hit me]

http://media.photobucket.com/image/u...co89/Reuse.jpg
the 2nd pic is what it would look like after you piece the rubber and ready for inection ,this is why its recomened to change needle pior to injection

[ottomaddox]

[Relax007]

Wow! That is crazy!

[big_ron]

if i drop a pin on the floor i just blow on it and stick it right back in

[Swifto]

if i drop a pin on the floor i just blow on it and stick it right back in

I've been using the same pin since 2005...

No, I havent, obviously.

This isnt rocket science. If your totally sterile or close too it and still get an infection your AAS is infected some how. You can then either risk mixing a little more BA/BB with it and filtering, or bin it (what I'd do).

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

Seriously what sort of poverty sticken, backwards (even for a) 3rd world country do you have to come from if you dont know basic needle hygiene safety?

Dont share needles
Use a needle once, then dispose of it safely with the cap back on it.

And that's pretty much it. I knew this from a young age and the only needles I ever saw were on tv, or at the doctors.