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    First cycle advice and thoughts....

    Hi Guys,

    After much contemplation, I have decided to enter "the dark side" and run my first ever steriod cycle!

    As an overview, I'm basically planning on running Test E at 500mg per week for 10 weeks, using the common injection days of Monday and Thursday (250mg each day). My goals are to put on 25lbs (the majority as muscle) and increase strength on all lifts.

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    My Stats are as follows;

    Age: 26
    Height: 6ft 2
    Weight: 205lbs
    BF%: 12
    Cycle Exp: No previous cycles
    Prohormone Exp: 2 previous 4 week cycles using iForce Nutritions Dymethazine - gains of 12/15lbs, respectively. Nolva used for PCT at 40/40/20/10
    PCT Knowledge: Enough to know what products to use, based upon forum searches, but any additional help would be much appreciated!
    Training Exp: 5 years

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    In regards to the cycle itself, I have planned it as such;

    Weeks 1-10 : Test E at 500mg per week
    Weeks 1-10 : Nolvadex 20mg ED (I have a very small case of Gynecomastia, which I don't want to make any worse, hence why I figured it would be best to run Nolva throughout)

    Additional Daily Supplements;

    Finasteride at 5mg ED
    Flax Seel Oil
    AI Cycle Support
    Taurine
    Potassium
    Vitamin C - 2g per day

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    PCT will start 1 week after my last injection (is this correct?), and will look like this;

    Clomid - 100/100/50/50
    Nolvadex - 40/40/20/20/10/10
    Aromasin - 20/20/20/20

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    An overview of my diet - this will be my starting amounts, and will change weekly dependant upon results gained;

    Calories - 4300 per day
    Protein - 400g
    Carbs - 450g
    Fats - 100g

    The main bulking foods will be used - lots of lean meats, oats, peanut butter, whey protein e.t.c.

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    In regards to training, I have had good success training each bodypart twice weekly on a 6 day split i.e Upper, Lower, Back then repeat, with Sunday off. I figured with the extra oomph from the gear, this would be a good option.

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    I think thats everything. As mentioned any help or tips for a newbie would be great.

    The above is basically the "barebones" - lots of fleshing out will be done over the next couple of weeks prior to actually getting things rolling

    Many thanks
    Tim

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    Pct would start 14 days after your last shot, and imo a standard nolva/clomid pct would be fine.....
    Do not ask me for a source check.






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    OK great. Thanks 007!

    T

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    With that as pct looks fine to me. could do test for 12 weeksif you wanted


    Keep us posted with your progress


    MaNiCC

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    Thanks for the response MaNiCC - 12 weeks may actually tie in better with my goals. Ideally I want to get up to around 230 maybe 235, and try to retain most of this once I've finished PCT.

    T

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    Looks good mate, a PCT of 40/40/20/20 (Nolva) and 100/50/50/50 (Clomid) would be sufficient though
    I stay clear of Clomid personally, makes me emotional as hell so if that happens you can stick to Nolva

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    Weeks 1-10 : Nolvadex 20mg ED (I have a very small case of Gynecomastia, which I don't want to make any worse, hence why I figured it would be best to run Nolva throughout
    shouldnt he save the nolva for pct? Use the aromasin to control sides while on cycle.

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    Thanks guys.

    T

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    Well I've been working on the diet aspect of my upcoming cycle. Any suggestions/changes to make are much appreciated!

    I tend to use a lot of protein based shakes for meals, mainly for their convenience.


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    Meal 1

    70g Protein Powder
    100g Oats
    10g Peanut Butter
    500ml Skim Milk

    1 x Fish Oil
    1g Vitamin C
    1g Potassium
    5g Taurine
    1 x AI Cycle Support

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    Meal 2

    70g Protein Powder
    100g Oats
    10g Peanut Butter

    1 x Fish Oil
    1g Potassium

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    Meal 3

    100g Tuna (drained)
    4 x stoneground bread
    20g Almonds


    1 x Fish Oil

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    Meal 4

    70g Protein Powder
    100g Oats
    10g Peanut Butter

    1 x Fish Oil

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    Workout

    5 x scoops Xtend in 2L water
    5g Taurine

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    Meal 5

    125g lean mince
    chopped tomatoes
    onion and garlic
    200g kidney beans
    chilli powder
    125g Basmati Rice
    20g Almonds


    1 x Fish Oil
    1g Potassium

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    Meal 6

    70g Protein Powder
    10g Peanut Butter
    500ml Skim Milk

    1 x Fish Oil
    1g Vitamin C
    1g Potassium
    1 x AI Cycle Support
    20mg Nolvadex
    5mg Finasteride

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    OVERALL TOTALS

    Caloies = 4336.2
    Protein = 398.7g
    Carbs = 449.5g
    Fats =107g

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    I'll post up my training regime over the next few days!

    Cheers
    T

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    way to many shakes. You are going to need real food to get to your goals.

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    I agree with saving the nolva and battling erse with an ai

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    way to many shakes. You are going to need real food to get to your goals.
    this x 100

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