Do you pct after a cycle or during?

[jpokem]

Ive read several threads and I am trying to do research before I start a cycle. SO are you supposed to PCT after or before a cycle? Im probably going to be on Test E and run it for 12 weeks. What should I use to pct Ive heard of clomid and novadex.

[gixxerboy1]

after. That is why it is called post cycle therapy

What are your stats?

[jpokem]

age27
height 5'10
weight240
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split 12
cycle experience 1
pct/estrogen control knowledge 0
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)

[gixxerboy1]

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...aysprune=&f=77

here is everything you need to know about pct

[jpokem]

age 28
height 5'10
weight 240
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split 12yres
cycle experience 1
pct/estrogen control knowledge 0
goals cut

I was thinking of running a cycle to cut like this

1-12 Test E 500mg/week
1-12 Deca Duraboling 200mg/week

Possibly looking to include some Winstrol .

[GS4]

after the cycle is over, 14 days after your last shot of Test E, nolva/clomid is usually the standard.

[endus]

What about HCG . I thought whole idea is to keep your teste functional and not shrink down to a pea. And by keeping it somewhat functioning, you recover faster once your cycle is done. So while not technically a Post activity - shouldn't that be consider as part of PCT since its in support of getting a naturals back?

[StangLaw]

Yeah you can use HCG too, it will get you back to normal faster. It does not keep you functional but give it a kick start. Yeah some do it during cycle or to kick start their post cycle.

[SpanishStallion]

its better to keep the pct after the cycle but if you start having trouble with estrogen abundency or feel the testis going way to small then you should act during the cycle. even if some recommend keeping the dosages as setteled at start of cycle i always change them during the cycle according to how i feel (both for anciliaries and hormone)

[gonzo6183]

At 5'10 240, what is your bodyfat? might need some looking into before a cyce, then again you could be in great shape for all I know, just asking so everyone is able to give the best advice.

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

did you just have a birthday?
Hip Hip Hooray!

[jpokem]

Thanks for all the info guys really appreciated it. I dont know my BF%, but I could lose my belly.

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

If you have a belly your body fat probably is a bit too high.
Seriously though you need to do much more research. It'll only take you, 1-2 weeks tops!
Dont jump on the juice and then start researching.

[Big]

Thanks for all the info guys really appreciated it. I dont know my BF%, but I could lose my belly.

could you post a pic and show us what base you are working with?

[jpokem]

Yes I will post a pic

[jpokem]

Posted pic on my profile

[Big]

I meant in this thread, something we can actually see.

[lovbyts]

Anyone else see a pic on the profile?

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

heh big, thought perhaps I didnt have enough posts to view his profile. :>

[devilduckizer09]

i bet his BF is high and also if your wanting to cut you wont need deca that stuff will blow you up!!!! just run the Test E n run the treadmill with it

[Matt]

Looking at your picture in your profile id put your bf% at 20/25%

You need to reduce this to at least 15% before you cycle...

And well done for becoming a year older in 15 minuets...

[lankykid234]

How is this?

Test E for 10 weeks at 250mg e5d or is e7d okay?
40mg Nolvadex 2 weeks after cycle every day for 2 weeks
HCG last week of cycle for 4 weeks e6d 1500 IU

Stats
Age: 21
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 155
BF: ~14%

[Matt]

How is this?

Test E for 10 weeks at 250mg e5d or is e7d okay?
40mg Nolvadex 2 weeks after cycle every day for 2 weeks
HCG last week of cycle for 4 weeks e6d 1500 IU

Stats
Age: 21
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 155
BF: ~14%

You need to start your own thread but its not very good..

You need to learn how to eat...

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

Terrible.

With your stats you have much to learn. Id suggest a week of 7 hours of studying posts here and in diet section, broken down into 1 hr per night.

1h x 7n.

[lankykid234]

Sounds good. Thanks guys

[Walnutz]

Clomid and/or nolvadex are the tried and true of pct chems.

[jpokem]

Why would I need to get my body fat % down to 15%

[gixxerboy1]

Why would I need to get my body fat % down to 15%

it reduces the chances of certian side effects

[Matt]

Why would I need to get my body fat % down to 15%

To reduce the risks of estrogen related sides.....