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    Jack23 is offline Junior Member
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    When will i turn to normal?

    5 months ago i did a 8 weeks cycle.200 mg Deca and 400 mgTestosteron Enanthate cycle.5 weeks Deca with Testosteron and last 3 week Testosteron alone.I did a bloodwork 3 weeks after cycle and my bloodwork was perfect so i didnt do PCT.And then suddenly my dick died.I waited 1-2 months and then went to doctor.They looked my hormone panel,penis,balls everything is perfect.But i still feel impotance... No morning erection,half night erections,no auto erections,i can have hard when masturbating only and it goes limp after 5 seconds And then last month i did a PCT(tamoxifen /clomid).Still having ED and cialis cant help me.When i use cialis it goes fully hard, and then go soft after 3-4 mins of performing.Is this Deca caused this?? If you want i can give you my hormone panel everything is perfect.I want to die now really depressed,im stupid steroids killed my life

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    nolvadex

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    Jack23 is offline Junior Member
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    I had ED a few months before PCT.And after PCT i still have

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    Age:23
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    no cycle experience,i would try only testosteron Enanthate in my first cycle and was reading somethings about it.One day,i had a friend in GYM(very big guy).And he said Enanthate wont help you,Deca is good for your first cycle and selt me.And mistake of my life,mistake of person.i found that Deca is detectable for 12-18 months.These metabolites may still effect me?

    plse look my hormone panel:

    LH:4,00 in male;1.24-8.62
    FSH:2,50 in male;1.27-19.26
    E2:39 in male;20-47
    Prolactin:9,11 in male;2.64-13.1
    Total Testosteron:6.36 in male;1.75-7.81

    cholesterol:153 reference;120-200
    triglyceride:108 reference;50-150
    HDL:48 reference;30-65
    LDL:83 reference;60-130
    VLDL:22 reference;10-30
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    3 weeks after you cycle u did blood work am i right? How can your test levels be normal, the enanthate is some what still in your system if not completly out leaving you with low testosterone which should have been shown in the bloodwork? Was your Enanthate legit? maybe the deca was only legit, u were using deca only for 5 weeks....giving you 6 weeks to recover when you got bloodwork? However i have herd of guys that used deca becoming impotent but generally recover after a couple of months

    Bump...any other ideas guys? i could be wrong but just wait for responses.

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    3 weeks after my cycle.My testosterone was around 4.36 and LH was 3.10.i think this too steroids might be in my system.So i gave 1-2 months to my body for going to doctor.When i go to doctor everything was better... And i wrote my last hormone panel.Decas are mostly fake? But it must be original killed my dck
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    the deca was definetly real cause ur impotant. Is there any chance that the test was fake? how was ur gains during the cycle. did u notice increase in strength and weight during after discontinuing the deca and using enanthate only?

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    I was still having gains after stoped Deca .But i lost all after cycle in depression.Man i wonder that,if testosteron is fake,how can deca give impotance to me? I know 100 mg Deca is killing your natural testo %100 in 10 days.But my testosterone is high now and also prolactin is in normal range.Deca causing impotance other than hormones?

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    years training = 1 year... fail right there

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    This is why you should consult these forums for advice before even starting a cycle:
    You have no idea how to design a cycle because the one you did is awful, you don't have enough experience to start using AAS and you have no idea about the compounds your using but now you come here for advice because its gone all wrong!! typical.

    Why dont you start researching like you should of done in the first place, yes steroids can cause serious damage if you have no idea what your doing, sometime they effect you for the rest of your life lets hope you recover

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    Obviously something is out of whack.

    Post ALL your blood work levels please. There are some guys here who can spot things pretty easy and maybe your doctor missed it.

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    yeah.hormones are so sensitive 1 mg more testosteron from out may effect hpta.So i say im stupid,idiot.I wrote my hormone panel.
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    has anyone experience on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    This is why you should consult these forums for advice before even starting a cycle:
    You have no idea how to design a cycle because the one you did is awful, you don't have enough experience to start using AAS and you have no idea about the compounds your using but now you come here for advice because its gone all wrong!! typical.

    Why dont you start researching like you should of done in the first place, yes steroids can cause serious damage if you have no idea what your doing, sometime they effect you for the rest of your life lets hope you recover
    ^^^^^^amen^^^^^^^

    Do some research man! Know what your putting in your body, you could screw yourself for life.

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    marcus can probably answer better. But if cialis isnt working also it may be partially phycological now. I would guarantee your cycle started it but your mind maybe continuing it

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    your stats look fine,, prolactin and estrogen may be on high side but so is your test (dont thnk those are the reasons)

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    I gotta agree w gix. U may still have hormonal issues but be careful u aren't mentally killing ur boner. Cialis should help bro if not something is really off.

    Cheer up man let's hope for the best and that u will be ok w time

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    Just wanted to let you know quick, you put a space after a period (.).......

    Gets very annoying reading when it's like that. Sorry to be internet spell check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickyReps717 View Post
    Just wanted to let you know quick, you put a space after a period (.).......

    Gets very annoying reading when it's like that. Sorry to be internet spell check.
    You have been here like 5 months.... And have 80 posts... Why don't you try to get a better post count instead of pointing out useless nonsense.

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    thanks you guys for answers.I wont use anything more Clomid/Tamoxifen etc.. they make me more depressive only and i was feeling like crying baby on Clomid lol.i think about mental problem also but like i said my erections totally killed.Anyway i will start psychiatry therapy soon too.i'll try it.and will try a new urologist.need to look my nervous system,i read Nandrolone may effect on nerveous system and causing ED.i hope my ED is not permanent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack23 View Post
    thanks you guys for answers.I wont use anything more Clomid/Tamoxifen etc.. they make me more depressive only and i was feeling like crying baby on Clomid lol.i think about mental problem also but like i said my erections totally killed.Anyway i will start psychiatry therapy soon too.i'll try it.and will try a new urologist.need to look my nervous system,i read Nandrolone may effect on nerveous system and causing ED.i hope my ED is not permanent
    just give it time,, more than likely you will return back to normal

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