Steroids from any doctor?

[setian]

I have some training partners that are all about to use. Since they don't know how to get the "illegal" stuff they are all getting blood tests done from a doctor so that he will prescribe them androgel or some other testosterone injection.

On purpose they are all going to try and drop their natural levels as low as possible. Haha, things like not eating good, not sleeping, alcohol, etc. They want to do this because then the doc may give them a higher dosage then they really need. Then each time they need to re-test they will do the same.

I say they are crazy. They are not teens or very young. All around 29-33 years old. Apparently one of them did this first. He got his level to test out at 150 from a blood test and now he is on the gel. The gel got his levels to 950. Now the doc is going to give him injections cause they want to get him up to 1200 to 1500! I thought that was odd his doc was willing to put him that high. I was think maybe 200-300 higher. Not over 1000 higher! Nice Doc I guess!

Is getting testosterone from a doctor like this pretty common when you really don't need it other than wanting to lift more weight?

How does Androgel stuff from a doc compare to all the stacks/cycles I see guys here talk about using?

[gixxerboy1]

if you get a dr to give it to you. you get enought so that you are in the normal range. Its not enough for bbing. It will shut down your normal test and put it back to normal with injections.

Low test effect people alot of ways. Drs give it to them so they feel normal again not so they can lift more.

Its a dumb idea imo

[setian]

Ah so basically they would all be shutting down their normal test production to be replacing it with injections. I guess why even bother if that is the case.

I think they think if they are normally maintaining around 250 free test level than if they can get to around 1200 than they will be gain super human strength. I was thinking it would take quite a bit more than that.

So if someone "tricks" a doctor into giving them test injections will that cause any permanent testosterone shutdown for the future if they go off these doctored doses?

I have a feeling they should just go to the real DARKSIDE or nor do it at all.

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

So if someone "tricks" a doctor into giving them test injections will that cause any permanent testosterone shutdown for the future if they go off these doctored doses?

Yes it will if theyre not running a PCT. And if theyre on it for a long time it can be hard to say if they can return with a PCT.

I agree with you, either do it properly or dont do it at all. How often would they be needing to "lower" their test levels? Eating poorly, not sleeping, and loads of alcohol cannot be very beneficial.
Just seems dumb to me.. get big, then fk ur body up so you can get more test and repeat.

[Bossman]

1200-1500 sounds like a lot, but when I was running 500mg of test EW my test was 5000.

[Nooomoto]

That's a retarded idea.

[Knockout_Power]

That's a retarded idea.

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[setian]

Haha...I am going to tell them about it. They need to do their research!

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

Id consider printing something off for them.

If a mate came up to me and said "i spoke with some guys off the internet and they think its not a great idea" Id probably give a smart arse response and not overly take the advice.
Perhaps theyre more mature but from their idea Im not keen to give them such credit. Remember they have their minds made up and look to 1 or 2 in the group who did it and somehow managed to get results (which would be much better had they done it properly).
So yeah if you can print them off some stuff, a copy for each one and just let them have it to read over at home etc.. It could help.

Obviously you want to help your friends so spend a little time thinking how you can approach it.
And good for you for being a caring friend. If they dont listen you tried, just dont follow them if they decide to jump off the bridge (honestly you can buy steroids online, some companies are fraudulent but this is a far better gamble than what your friends have planned)

[nwjt]

My test is under 200 at age 32. This is low, and I have symptoms of low test. The question becomes, should someone like me (and your buddies with low test) live with with a 200, or get a prescription to bring the test levels up? Higher test levels = more anabolic so in my opinion it makes sense. Further, low test levels can naturally get lower anyways.

If your buddies havel healthy test, there is no way they can lower them to the levels to get a prescription (short of getting castrated).