is there a limit on gains in 1cycle?

**papa-pump** · 05-27-2010, 06:05 PM

ive been on since march 10th, its now may27th. i have gained 30lbs. im almost done with my bottles and im wondering if i should just come off because is it worth spending money on 2more bottles if i cant gain too much more?

**Bvette** · 05-27-2010, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by papa-pump

ive been on since march 10th, its now may27th. i have gained 30lbs. im almost done with my bottles and im wondering if i should just come off because is it worth spending money on 2more bottles if i cant gain too much more?

What are your stats? what are you on now?

**papa-pump** · 05-27-2010, 06:18 PM

im 22 lean low bodyfat
im 175lbs (started at 145)
i started w prop and tren ace and im currently using t4 and tren hex.

**russiandave** · 05-27-2010, 06:18 PM

GOod question bv.

Pump did u plan a full cycle and pct or are u just taking gear until u reach some sortof limit indefinitely.

That's pretty scary if so

**papa-pump** · 05-27-2010, 06:25 PM

i planed on being on for 12-15wks.
but i feel like i should come off.

**gixxerboy1** · 05-27-2010, 06:29 PM

yes you should stop now.

You will probably loose alot of it since you were so small before you started.

how tall are you?

**JScondition** · 05-27-2010, 06:29 PM

I don't mean to kill your high of gaining 30lbs, but you will most likely lose a lot of it. First off tren in your first cycle is going to give you killer gains, but if you would have just run the test for the full cycle you probably would have gotten close to 30lbs.

You also started pretty low and young 145 is not a good weight unless you are 5'5". You could have probably gained some more muscle naturally. Because you haven't reached your natural potential you will lose a lot of the weight you gained on cycle. I wouldn't be surprised if you dropped back down to 150 after pct.

Please tell me you have a planned PCT...

**papa-pump** · 05-27-2010, 06:35 PM

this isnt my 1st cycle. ( is there a limit on gains in 1 cycle)

im 5'7
the reason why i started this cycle is because i got mixed up w the wrong ppl and also why i weighed 145. i wanted to get away from those things and get back in the gym! i know what its like being on it so i couldnt wait! especially the tren

**russiandave** · 05-27-2010, 06:37 PM

Since we all agree u will probably lose some gains why not just stay on course and finish ur planned cycle and try to really secure some of that lean mass. It would suck to shut down early just to lose it all in the end

**JScondition** · 05-27-2010, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by papa-pump

this isnt my 1st cycle. ( is there a limit on gains in 1 cycle)

im 5'7
the reason why i started this cycle is because i got mixed up w the wrong ppl and also why i weighed 145. i wanted to get away from those things and get back in the gym! i know what its like being on it so i couldnt wait! especially the tren

Sorry I read into it wrong about being your 1st cycle...
There are many things wrong with what you said that shows that you were not ready for this. You can't just jump on AAS cause you want to get back in the gym. You need to have been training for years and be in top training condition before you even consider AAS or you are setting yourself up for injury and failure. You also "couldn't wait!" WTF man that is just ignorant. You have to be patient if you are going to do this or you can seriously f up your body.

You DO have PCT right?!?!?! If so how are you running it?

**papa-pump** · 05-27-2010, 08:09 PM

this isnt my 1st cycle, i know i can "f myself up"

im not asking about pct

all im asking is if any1 thinks its worth doing more or save it and come off.
since i havent been on long i should be able to rebound quick and jump back on.

**papa-pump** · 05-27-2010, 08:23 PM

end a cycle short to rebound and jump back on?

**Big** · 05-27-2010, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by papa-pump

this isnt my 1st cycle, i know i can "f myself up"

im not asking about pct

all im asking is if any1 thinks its worth doing more or save it and come off.
since i havent been on long i should be able to rebound quick and jump back on.

no, you should definitely not do more. you shouldn't be on cycle at all.

**ThatGuyYeahHim** · 05-27-2010, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by papa-pump

this isnt my 1st cycle, i know i can "f myself up"

im not asking about pct

all im asking is if any1 thinks its worth doing more or save it and come off.
since i havent been on long i should be able to rebound quick and jump back on.

You should be spending as much time "recovering" (aka off the gear) as you spent on it (including PCT).

**papa-pump** · 05-27-2010, 08:42 PM

theres really no limit on how much gains u make correct?

**Big** · 05-27-2010, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by papa-pump

theres really no limit on how much gains u make correct?

of course there is a limit

**papa-pump** · 05-27-2010, 08:50 PM

ive been on 6-7 wks, you dont think i can still make progress in another 4wks?

**Big** · 05-27-2010, 08:52 PM

what exactly was the planned cycle and pct you started with, and what are your reasons for altering your initial plan?

**papa-pump** · 05-27-2010, 08:59 PM

i planed on running prop and tren a for 12wks.
this was my 1st time w short esters and after going through it so quick ididnt wana spend so much money. so i decided to switch to t4 and hex.
pct-nolva

**ThatGuyYeahHim** · 05-27-2010, 08:59 PM

what doses are you running? It sounds like a short cycle..

**papa-pump** · 05-27-2010, 09:05 PM

600 mgs test and 300mgs tren weekly

**calgarian** · 05-27-2010, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Big

no, you should definitely not do more. you shouldn't be on cycle at all.

what he said....
to OP u could have gain 30lbs without AAS if u had ur diet in place but its too late get going on ur diet and u r not going to like it but this is the truth.

**papa-pump** · 05-27-2010, 09:26 PM

maybe i couldve but its too late, idont see myself going all natural after using these compounds.

**calgarian** · 05-27-2010, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by papa-pump

maybe i couldve but its too late, idont see myself going all natural after using these compounds.

u be the one giving AAS a bad name........just my opinion

**papa-pump** · 05-27-2010, 09:42 PM

whys that? i love em

cuz i cycled at 145 lbs?

**Big** · 05-27-2010, 09:50 PM

you started too young with no real plan, and are using them to take the place of proper diet and dedication.

**papa-pump** · 05-27-2010, 09:58 PM

too young? there isnt conclusive proof it effects ur growth plates and u have to be say 30yrs of age. everyones different and in my case i wana look good now not when im 40. dedication? im not a competive lifter, body builder, or wana bench 500lbs.

**ThatGuyYeahHim** · 05-27-2010, 10:16 PM

Each to their own.
I wanted a job before I started uni. But had to wait. Now Im earning great money.
My first car was a hyundai. Now I have a Beamer. (z4)
I lived in a crappy house for several years. Now I own a nice cottage.

My friends still rent, own several OLD 4x4s, and still live in shitty rental accommodation

Point is, nothing that lasts and is worthwhile comes quickly. You should consider therapy if your self esteem is this low.