injection

[ess3489]

doing my first cycle of test E. when i inject the test e into the glutes i can literally feel a pocket of the test under the skin for a few days. this is my first week on it so i have only injected it mon and thursday..... is this normal to be able to feel a pocket of the test in the glute?

[Big]

doing my first cycle of test E. when i inject the test e into the glutes i can literally feel a pocket of the test under the skin for a few days. this is my first week on it so i have only injected it mon and thursday..... is this normal to be able to feel a pocket of the test in the glute?

nope, not normal

[Mr.Rose]

Unless its in your head because it's your first injection, like Big said, no it's not normal. You usually feel the oil in the injection site for a few minutes if you try to move the muscle after your injection. However it soon spreads throughout the muscle and you shouldn't feel it.

Is the skin above the injection site, swollen, red itchy?

[ess3489]

kind of red, not itchy at all. but i can feel it when i sit down

[ess3489]

even bending over to strech before i workout legs i can feel it really tight in my glutes

[shortybrolick]

Don't mean to spook you but you gotta find out if its an infection or not, Because it could get bad if it is...

[gixxerboy1]

what size pin did you use?

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

That pain you describe is normal for injecting a new chemical into your muscle.
When you use a new muscle (ie diff glut, or delt) then you will probably experience that discomfort when you walk up stairs, sit down etc. Should go away within hours or a day.

What size pin are you using? 1 1/2 inch 23g is usually recommended. 1inch for everywhere else.
Personally I dont like to pin the muscle Im about to work out the following day after one of my first pins (I couldn't squat for shit..felt like a douche setting everything up, trying one squat, and giving up). Now that my muscles are used to it i think it'll be ok but since I pin only twice a week Id rather stick to what I know.

Keep us posted, and if the pain persists see a doctor.

[gymmonster]

dumb question but you did inject it IM right?
can you give more detail on how you feel a (POCKET)
is it just really tight maybe a little swollen if so this was how my first few went

[thenextcutler]

did you inject deep enough? I had this feeling for days on my very first pin. I was too scared to stick it in all the way and some ended up under my skin and in the fat. Pain for a week. Also like the guy up there said soreness is expected with new
muscles... ever had a shot from the doctor in your arm? Sore afterwards?

If it doesn't go away, swells, burns, consider a doctor bro. Too many people ask medical questions that no one on this board has any business answering

[ess3489]

i used a 1 inch 23 gauge pin..... and i pushed it all the way in. should i go get 1.5 inch pins would this short pin make the test not reach the muscle?

i did my right glute monday and today it feels almost 100% not tight at all

i did my left glute yesterday and i dont really feel a pocket but it is really tight and i can feel it when i walk up stairs or sit down. anytime my leg or skin is stretched i can feel there it tighten.

like i said the right side feels alot better now so maybe it was just injecting a new chemical into my body and it might start getting better with less stiffness and less tightness.

if the left side does the same and in 2 days is then gone i should be fine right?

by monday i am sure my right side will be 100% and ready for its second injection. If for some reason it gets worse (which i dont think is going to happen seeing how it loosened up and got alot better and more flexable) how do you apraoch a doctor about looking for an infection? Do you just tell him u have been putting test in your body and to check it out?

[ess3489]

dumb question but you did inject it IM right?
can you give more detail on how you feel a (POCKET)
is it just really tight maybe a little swollen if so this was how my first few went

whats injecting it IM??? might sound like a dumb question. i did my research on where to inject it and how so i thought i did it right. maybe i just need 1.5 inch pins for the glutes.

[JasonT]

IM = intramuscular (in the muscle)

unless you have extremely low bodyfat, 1" won't fly

[chuckt12345]

1" should be fine,, sounds more like swelling than the actual oil

[thenextcutler]

if you have to go to the doc just be straight up with him. He might not agree with it but he will still help. Don't risk a false diagnosis, tell him everything. Remember there's doctor patient confidentiallity

[thenextcutler]

1" should be fine,, sounds more like swelling than the actual oil

Glute is a big muscle. Why not use 1.5 and play it safe? Even lean people carry extra fat there

[ricky23]

i think the pin probably didnt reach the muscle. you may have injected into fat rather than muscle. if youre sure that you injected into muscle then its probably just a reaction for a first time user. its not normal but it happens to most people on their first time. try injecting into your outer quad.

[Knockout_Power]

He may just be explaining it wrong, maybe he isnt actually feeling the oil under the skin. I know when I pin, I can feel a slight consistency difference within an inch of the injection site for a day or 2 after pinning depending on the compound I shot.

To the OP, this your first cycle so you may just be reacting to a foreign substance. Im sure we all had it a little worse near the beginning. I know I made the mistake of trying T400 first cycle and it swole up so bad and painful as hell. No infection, it took 3 day to subside, just in time for the next injection which kept me limping.

Virgin muscle is unpredictable. As long as you are not feeling a heavy burning sensation with purple developing around the site, you should be just fine.

[bjohnson1968]

I too think you'll be fine sounds like virgin muscle and your right it can be funny sometimes. I remember my first pin right glute felt fine next pin was in the left ( a little more difficult to keep steady) got sore as H*ll now most spots dont really cause much pain...except my delts they still get a little sore

[beakstar]

can anyone give me advice on what 2 do if you hit the sciatic nerve...i did a cycle of test and decca for 8 weeks all was well until the last jab this was back in november last year,i keep hoping the pain will go but it aint...pain is bad when sitting in my right butt cheek and gets better when walking about,read all kinds and the signs look like its my sciatic nerve...wanting to do my second cycle but not sure if wise..any feedback would be much appreciated..

[gixxerboy1]

can anyone give me advice on what 2 do if you hit the sciatic nerve...i did a cycle of test and decca for 8 weeks all was well until the last jab this was back in november last year,i keep hoping the pain will go but it aint...pain is bad when sitting in my right butt cheek and gets better when walking about,read all kinds and the signs look like its my sciatic nerve...wanting to do my second cycle but not sure if wise..any feedback would be much appreciated..

not much you can do if you already hit it. Inject in your other body part and dont worry about it

[thenextcutler]

can anyone give me advice on what 2 do if you hit the sciatic nerve...i did a cycle of test and decca for 8 weeks all was well until the last jab this was back in november last year,i keep hoping the pain will go but it aint...pain is bad when sitting in my right butt cheek and gets better when walking about,read all kinds and the signs look like its my sciatic nerve...wanting to do my second cycle but not sure if wise..any feedback would be much appreciated..

dude... D-O-C-T-O-R... seriously man, you may have nerve damage and your asking a bunch of meat head drug users to help you with it.

Nerve damage can be permanent, but usually heals over a period of 3-12 months depending on the damage. Either way, waddle over to your local clinic

[HOLLYWOOD85]

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can anyone give me advice on what 2 do if you hit the sciatic nerve...i did a cycle of test and decca for 8 weeks all was well until the last jab this was back in november last year,i keep hoping the pain will go but it aint...pain is bad when sitting in my right butt cheek and gets better when walking about,read all kinds and the signs look like its my sciatic nerve...wanting to do my second cycle but not sure if wise..any feedback would be much appreciated..

The sciatic nerve is an extremely important nerve. If you have ruptured it you could cause big problems in the long run. Go see a doc and be straight with him.

[ess3489]

i will use 1.5 inch pins this week see if that helps me out. thanks for all the info.

also what happens if i just made the mistake of using to small of a pin? if it just gets into the fat is that week of test wasted? or will eventually it seep into the muscle it just takes longer and is giving me the tightness i feel

[bjohnson1968]

no the test isnt wasted...injecting to shallow can result in an abcess you need to make sure your in the muscle...more than likely your just experiencing virgin muscle soreness

[ess3489]

thanks for all the info.... ill get 1.5 inch pins for the next weeks injections and post back here at the end of the week to let yall know if the problem was fixed or still getting tight and sore

[thenextcutler]

will eventually it seep into the muscle it just takes longer and is giving me the tightness i feel

This is exactly right and I experienced it first hand. I suspect this is your problem

[devilduckizer09]

stop making the guy scared...its just a regular feeling after you first start to pin! its in your head mate dont wurry about it you have said there is no swell or itchy redness i have the same feeling after i pin in my right glute but never my left?

[ess3489]

ok so update. i used a 1.5 inch 23 gauge last week which was my second week on the test..... when i pin that day its fine, and all that day and night, then when i wake up the next day its really stiff and on my left glute it was kinda swelled up. i can feel its alot harder so im guessing the muscle under the skin is swollen and thats why it feels so tight. there is no pain when im standing or anything but mowing my yard or jumping or squatting i can feel that its really tight. the best way to explain how it feels is remember when you first started working out and you did biceps??? and your elbow and biceps were just really stiff and sore whenever you tried to move. thats what this feels like. there is no redness no color change at all. just under the skin i can tell the muscle is swollen and stiff.

i might not have the steadiest hand or the flexibility to pin myself correctly in the glute i feel really shaking doing it. so maybe thats my problem i am moving to much when the needle is in my glute and thats what irritating the muscle.

also can i switch up the pins because my glutes are sore. can i maybe to quads one week then glutes the next and alternate them? or if putting the full amount in one spot is what is irritating the muscle can i do half in my left glute then half in my right on monday. then half in my right quad and half in my left quad thursday? just thinking of a few things that might work.

i really dont think its an infection because it doesnt look infected or hurt when standing. only when my glute is used to move does it start to hurt. and no color change or itch or burn, just some swelling under the skin right where the injection was and very stiff and sore.

is this normal or is my muscle just really sensitive to the needle and foreign test coming into my body? can i fix this by mixing up the injection sites and splitting the dosage?

thanks for any help, just trying to figure out how to prevent this stiff swollen feeling. maybe this is normal and my muscle is just sensitive

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

Relax.

As pointed out above youre over thinking this. This wont help the shakeyness either.

Also as pointed out above, you should rotate your injection sites. Also, often when you inject a virgin muscle the first one or two times it can be very stiff. I injected today (on week 5/6) and if i think about it hard, i can feel a little discomfort, perhaps stiffness etc. But, you get used to it, so stop over thinking it. Unless it looks like its infected, you will be fine.

Oh, and perhaps its not a good idea to inject yourself in the glutes before working legs.

And glad to hear you picked up some longer pins.

[bjohnson1968]

yes you can also inject quads..its alot easier to stay steady use a 1'' pin

no I would NOT do half in each glute 3.5 days apart you shouldn't inject the same spot more than once a week

being stiff after injection is nornal you have to remember your causing trauma to the muscle

[ess3489]

yea im pretty sure im over thinking it. the pain is pretty stiff and swollen but i can dea with it as long as this is normal and from what i have read this pain and stiffness is normal. hopefully it will start to get easier and less stiff as my cycle continues.

Im going to inject later on today which will start my third week. My right glute feels fine so i was planning on injecting there.(the last time i injected in the right glute was last monday so its been a week of time to recover.) My left glute hurts pretty bad and is still very stiff and swollen from thursday injection. i did work legs on thursday following my injection so that might be why it swelled up more and was more stiff than the others.

I should be good for the right glute injection today. as far as thrsday goes i am not sure if the left glute will be completely ready and maybe injecting in the glutes before doing legs is a bad idea...... where would be a good injection site for thursday when i workout legs after????

also maybe next week i will switch from glutes to quad can anyone explain the best method and placement for injecting in the quad? and can i inject the quad thursday when i do legs or should i try delt or something upper body??

[JasonT]

^^^ try delts, will be less painful than quads. Sounds like you have some painful gear.

[ess3489]

is there a certain way to do delts best? i know with glutes its top outer side of your glute. with delts i know you use a 1inch pin but is there a special spot to pin or just right in the middle of the delt? could i do delt today and thursday to give my glutes a rest?

yes the gear does seem to be painful but then again im not to flexible to turn around and pin my glute very steady. and also im really active playing sports most days and i have classes all day so running around and sitting down for long periods of time are not helping with these glute injections.

i would also like to try some arm injections like tri and bi maybe or is this a bad idea? from what i have read the more locations the better and less scare tissue. also longer time between pin sites so longer recovery.

can some explain where to pin for different muscles so i can start trying different injections sites and give my glutes a rest.

[Knockout_Power]

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[carbo]

is there a certain way to do delts best? i know with glutes its top outer side of your glute. with delts i know you use a 1inch pin but is there a special spot to pin or just right in the middle of the delt? could i do delt today and thursday to give my glutes a rest?

yes the gear does seem to be painful but then again im not to flexible to turn around and pin my glute very steady. and also im really active playing sports most days and i have classes all day so running around and sitting down for long periods of time are not helping with these glute injections.

i would also like to try some arm injections like tri and bi maybe or is this a bad idea? from what i have read the more locations the better and less scare tissue. also longer time between pin sites so longer recovery.

can some explain where to pin for different muscles so i can start trying different injections sites and give my glutes a rest.

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[carbo]

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[ess3489]

thanks alot that explain everything perfect on injections and which sites.

last question....... is there a method as to inject at a certain site depending on what muscle group you will be working out?? what i mean is if i usually do chest on monday and cover back tri and bi and shoulder from monday to wed then should i do an injection in the upper body like delt or in the arms so the test is in the muscle group area i will be working out. then when i do legs on thursday inject in theglute or quad?

or does it not matter where the test is injected as long as its in the muscle the test will work?? in this case i should just rotate around from injection spot to injection spot

[Knockout_Power]

the compounds you are using have no real site specific results. It builds up in your system and then becomes effective. I try to avoid pinning a site I will be working directly that day... ei, if Im working shoulders I stay away from pinning delts that morning.