First cycle.....Advice and Suggestions plz!

[lonewalker]

Hi! After months of reading, finally i'm about to start my first cycle.

Test E - 500mgs per week for 10 weeks
Dianabol - 30mg ED for first 3 weeks.

And for PCT, i'll be running:

Clomid - 100/50/50/50
Nolva - 40/20/20/20
Also i'll keep some nolva handy during my cycle.

My stats-
22
178cms
161lbs
BF- not sure,mayb 16%
Been working in and out for 4yrs,out of which 2 are regular weight training.
Guys lemme know wat u think 'bout my cycle. Also i'm wondering if i should order all my test E amps together at once,and is it okay if i store them amps in the refrigerator? Waitin for some positive guidance.

[panntastic]

looks like you done some homework my man which is good and makes a change. its a good cycle as a beginner personally i would drop the dbol but its only a small dosage your planning on running so its not to bad.
hows your diet?
what are you hoping to gain out of this cycle?
have you got your test and pct in hand before starting cycle as its best to get everything before cycling especially your pct!

[Morgoth]

You don't need both Clomid and Nolva for your PCT. Just pick one.

[panntastic]

You don't need both Clomid and Nolva for your PCT. Just pick one.

keep both the clomid and nolva mate the idea is to get natty test back as quick as to keep all those gains possible both of these compounds will do that.

[Bossman]

My stats-
22
178cms-5'10"
161lbs
BF- not sure,mayb 16%
Been working in and out for 4yrs,out of which 2 are regular weight training.
Guys lemme know wat u think 'bout my cycle. Also i'm wondering if i should order all my test E amps together at once,and is it okay if i store them amps in the refrigerator? Waitin for some positive guidance.

You are on the young side to be using AAS but more of a concern is that you're only 161 lbs at 5'10" and not that lean. It's recommended that you at least approach your natural potential before you start using AAS. Im sure you could put on a substantial amount of size without AAS providing your diet and training were on point. If they are not, you will not get the gains you expect or keep them with the use of AAS.

Spend some time researching proper diet and training. If you can't gain another 20lbs naturally, you have something out of place and AAS will not fix that. Spend at least a year with a proper diet and training in place and see were you are.

[cypionate19]

You don't need both Clomid and Nolva for your PCT. Just pick one.

what a stupid thing so say... do you have any sources that suggest that 2 anti estrogens are not as good or better than 1?

[Matt]

You are on the young side to be using AAS but more of a concern is that you're only 161 lbs at 5'10" and not that lean. It's recommended that you at least approach your natural potential before you start using AAS. Im sure you could put on a substantial amount of size without AAS providing your diet and training were on point. If they are not, you will not get the gains you expect or keep them with the use of AAS.

Spend some time researching proper diet and training. If you can't gain another 20lbs naturally, you have something out of place and AAS will not fix that. Spend at least a year with a proper diet and training in place and see were you are.

100% agree...

[lonewalker]

hows your diet?
what are you hoping to gain out of this cycle?

Thanks for replyin bro!
Being a med student, its hard to keep count of diet. But i eat 4 to 5 times a day, mostly beef or chicken, 8 eggs(4yolks removed). I workout 6 times a week,including 2 days of cardio.
But the thing is i cant get enough sleep,as i have loads to study everyday before goin to bed,and have to wake up early for classes.
Approx how many lbs do u think i can gain out of this cycle,if i keep my diet and sleep in control....just gimme an idea.

[ScotchGuard]

x2 with cbg6810. You should get yourself into the habit of a good workout/eating regiment. The level of success you'll achieve with an AAS cycle is directly related to the workout/eating regiment. I would have said rest/sleep also but you're a med student so you probably do little of that. For a first cycle I would drop the dbol. If you really are determined to use it use it for 4 weeks. It takes about 4 weeks for the Test E to start working. Dbol is used to "jump start" the first for weeks of the cycle. I gained 25lbs in my first 4 weeks with dbol (40mg/ed) and sustanon 250 500mg/wk. Eight months after PCT I'm retained about 10 lbs. My diet wasn't the best.

[gym_junki]

youl get about 20 pounds. but are u going to be able to keep it is the question. to be able to do that you will need a good base and a good pct, i kno no matter how much people will advice u in not doing this u will not listen, so i sudgest that u do 2month of hard trainning and good diet, ur aim is 7pounds on top of what u have now and drop ur body fat as much as you can. otherwise u can kiss that 18pounds that ur going to gain good bye. good luck

[lonewalker]

I just got my bodyfat measured, its a little less than 10%.
okay,so i'm gonna drop the D-bol, and go with just test E. Should i change my pct too then? Is there anything else i need to know? (except for the "eating/trainin is better than aas for u" part)

[Matt]

You are on the young side to be using AAS but more of a concern is that you're only 161 lbs at 5'10" and not that lean. It's recommended that you at least approach your natural potential before you start using AAS. Im sure you could put on a substantial amount of size without AAS providing your diet and training were on point. If they are not, you will not get the gains you expect or keep them with the use of AAS.

Spend some time researching proper diet and training. If you can't gain another 20lbs naturally, you have something out of place and AAS will not fix that. Spend at least a year with a proper diet and training in place and see were you are.

No you should read this...

I just got my bodyfat measured, its a little less than 10%.
okay,so i'm gonna drop the D-bol, and go with just test E. Should i change my pct too then? Is there anything else i need to know? (except for the "eating/trainin is better than aas for u" part)

Yes if your diet isnt spot on then any gains you make will be short lived, there are no short cuts...