is testicular atrophy a definite?

[gbrice75]

I'm just wondering if testicular atrophy is a definite side to expect while running test, or does it happen with some people and not others?

I just finished week 4 of test e 250mg x2/week. I haven't experienced any gains or sides yet, but didn't expect to see anything until around weeks 5-7 anyway.

Basically, i'm not 100% certain that my gear is legit and if testicular atrophy is guaranteed, that would be proof for me if/when it happens. Does it usually happen right away, or around the same time one should expect to start seeing gains?

[c-Z]

I have yet to see the boys shrink down....

[ghettoboyd]

i dont experianc it but then again i have big balls...seriously....thay may shrink a bit but its hard to tell...the wife has never commented on it and well she would notice more than me....

[peachfuzz]

shutdown or supression is. atrophy is not.

[peachfuzz]

Im usually up weight pretty fast even with longer esters. Hows the Diet? What cycle number is this and how long since your last cycle?

[steroidpete]

I have completed a course of test 250 done it for 10weeks injecting 2 ml once a week and i gained nothing from it! no size what so ever or weight gained. But i didnt no if my gear was legit so i was the same as you but i wudnt get your hopes up mate.

I started my newcourse yesterday
test 400 and decca 300 injecting a ml from each every 3 days ive been told its meant to work good.

[Bossman]

I have completed a course of test 250 done it for 10weeks injecting 2 ml once a week and i gained nothing from it! no size what so ever or weight gained. But i didnt no if my gear was legit so i was the same as you but i wudnt get your hopes up mate.

I started my newcourse yesterday
test 400 and decca 300 injecting a ml from each every 3 days ive been told its meant to work good.

I see you said this in another post as well..
What are you stats Pete?
age
ht
wt
cycle exp

What was your diet like on cycle?

[gbrice75]

Im usually up weight pretty fast even with longer esters. Hows the Diet? What cycle number is this and how long since your last cycle?

Thanks all for the feedback... guess I can't rely on atrophy and need to wait and see if the gains happen!

Peach - the diet is pretty solid and clean, eating @ 3000 calories/day right now (after 1.5 years of 2000 or less, I was a 255lb fat fvck), 40/40/20 split. I am still learning about my own body, and may need to bump up to 3500 anyway. I can post up or PM you my diet if you'd care to have a look, let me know.

This is my first cycle.

[peachfuzz]

your more then welcome to post up your diet. if you do post it in the diet section. i was mostly just wanting to make sure your caloric intake was sufficient. how did you come up with 3500 calories?

[gbrice75]

your more then welcome to post up your diet. if you do post it in the diet section. i was mostly just wanting to make sure your caloric intake was sufficient. how did you come up with 3500 calories?

I'll pass, I think people are sick of seeing my diet posted, lol!

As for caloric intake, that's what i'm still trying to figure out. I am not certain of my TDEE, the formulas/calculators have been all over the place with results, so now i'm just trying to listen to my body.

Is your question - how did I come up with thinking I may need 3500 calories? Just based on the fact that after 1 month at 3000 calories I am not seeing any appreciable gains, and after 1.5 years at 2000 or less, I was sort of expecting a bit of a growth explosion. Maybe I was expecting too much, who knows. Oddly enough, I am up 15lbs, I just don't see it and attribute it mostly to water.

[Ashop]

I have yet to see the boys shrink down....

It is individual. Not everyone has shrinkage.

[NOVA718]

I can only assume everyones geno type is different and can play a part in how fast or slow your body responds to your gear in a given cycle alongside your own individual input, diet, training, pct..etc. I also have just finished week 4 of my cycle of Test E as well with no sides but with a good amount of gains. I began at 162lbs I then increased my weight to 171lbs natural (I just finally started to really get serious about the base of everything and that was my diet.) Im now at 181lbs and pretty lean, so far Ive gained a good 10lbs on the gear with little water retention. Here are my stats:

Age 28yrs
Ht 5'11
Wt Before cycle 162lbs Current 181lbs.
BF% 8-10%
Training 5yrs (Last 3yrs of serious training)
Diet 3000-3500 cals per day
Experience: First cycle however 5yrs of just reading and educating myself on anabolics.
Gear 500mg Test E. split 2 shots per week at 250mg Mon/Thur
PCT Nolva

Damn! sorry guys I just freakin wrote you a novel..lol

[gymnerd]

I have been on something for 6months straight now and there is very little to no shrinkage and thats with harse compounds and somewhat big doses Nadrolone, tren, drol, gram of test etc.

[awesome1]

been on TRT for a while now and the boys have actually gotten BIGGER. thats not a joke and yes I did measure my balls.....

[danielli]

Thanks all for the feedback... guess I can't rely on atrophy and need to wait and see if the gains happen!

Peach - the diet is pretty solid and clean, eating @ 3000 calories/day right now (after 1.5 years of 2000 or less, I was a 255lb fat fvck), 40/40/20 split. I am still learning about my own body, and may need to bump up to 3500 anyway. I can post up or PM you my diet if you'd care to have a look, let me know.

This is my first cycle.

40/40/20...is that Pro/Carbs/Fat or Pro/Fat/Carbs?

[ironflames]

if they dont shrink youll also have a better chance at keeping your gains since your body wont have to normalize that extra function. i dont get shrinkage either. im on week 5 of tren ace/test prop @ 150mg/ml test ED and 100mg/ml Tren ace ED and im still good to go, and still pumping out tons of stuff on the girls face! lol

[russiandave]

im ten weeks into my test and vac cycle and my balls have slightlllllly shrunk at most.

i think it varies from person to person

[MuscleCommand]

Side effects vary for each user. Some get them bad, others nothing at all. Even of you get a little ball shrink, it'll reverse itself once you cycle off.

And not getting any side effects isn't tell-tale way to know if you used bunk or not. If you did everything correctly and didn;t gain much, that is a better indicator.

[Superhero d-bolman]

My balls shrink from test c or e extremely fast, in hours i notice it.

[bjpennnn]

dude my balls shrink asap on cycle.

[Devil's_Advocate]

I'm 38, and only get minimal shrinkage. On my 2nd cycle now.
1st: test e 500mg/wk
2nd: test e 500mg/wk & Eq 600mg/wk

SteroidPete: I have noticed early in both cycles the differences in recovery, before the changes in strength and weight. But, going a whole cycle and still being in doubt sounds suspect mate.