PTC and cycle questions

[Pat403]

Hey guys, I have just hit a speed bump and have yet to decide what way to go. Long story short I have recently found out it will be hard if not impossible for me to get my hands on my PTC products for a while. With that being said, I am coming up to the end of a D-Bol only cycle well I'm just about at 4 weeks. I had intended to do this bulking cycle run my PTC and then start on a cutting cycle. With this new information I was wondering if I would be ok to finish my D-Bol at 4 weeks then immedietly start a test blend and anavar for 10 or so weeks then run the PTC products I have? Basically get the most out of what I have. In addition I am mostly worried about the D-bol strait to var on my liver but I figured I can keep the var on the lower dosage side at around 50mg ed and run it for 6 weeks. Any advise I'm stoked to have!

[IMunchRoidz]

Hey guys, I have just hit a speed bump and have yet to decide what way to go. Long story short I have recently found out it will be hard if not impossible for me to get my hands on my PTC products for a while. With that being said, I am coming up to the end of a D-Bol only cycle well I'm just about at 4 weeks. I had intended to do this bulking cycle run my PTC and then start on a cutting cycle. With this new information I was wondering if I would be ok to finish my D-Bol at 4 weeks then immedietly start a test blend and anavar for 10 or so weeks then run the PTC products I have? Basically get the most out of what I have. In addition I am mostly worried about the D-bol strait to var on my liver but I figured I can keep the var on the lower dosage side at around 50mg ed and run it for 6 weeks. Any advise I'm stoked to have!

lol, there is so much wrong with this post, im not even gunna bother
how old are u?

[barnyap]

ptc... lol what is ptc

[Pat403]

Well i'd appreciate some form of an answer otherwise i'm gonna go ahead and do it. I'm lookin for a yes or no. I'm 26, 5'6", 182lbs in the 15% area for BF. I have a good diet and I would just like an answer. I apologize for the acronym incident but none the less I would still like some help and not just a strait shutdown.

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

No, Do NOT Do It

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

Go to AR-R (top of page) they sponsor this site. You will be able to get PCT products from them.

From your impatience, lack of knowledge you really should not be thinking about steroids. You have much learning to do before you go putting these chemicals in your body.

[Pat403]

ok, well thats all well and good and I don't want to sound as if I am not appreciative of your help however I would like to know really what the worst that could happen in this case really is? If I follow the beginner test cycle info and PCT? I mean from the looks of it other people here are pumping themselves full of a lot more, for a lot longer and a lot stronger compounds. I'm looking at a relatively short cycle and will be completing adequate PCT. From what I've looked at it seems like the only thing I am doing different from anyone else is with the orals and it seems as though I am in the place physically, to use these compounds.

[Pat403]

Also on a side note I understand that I have not done all the research but I know enough to follow a suggested plan. I mean not everyone needs to be a doctor they just need to follow doctors orders

[gym_junki]

mate I'm not trying to be harsh on u, plz understand that the guys that commented above only want the best for u. Yes others run a big dose for a longer period of time with more compounds but they have all the knowledge and and experience to do so, they all started with one compound to see how they react and experimented with many others.
and u shouldn't follow what people tell u without it making sense to u, you have to kno what your doing so if something goes wrong you know how to fix it...

[barnyap]

maybe you should also read the posts by people coming here when stuff has gone wrong, and either experience erectile dysfunction, not gaining any results, infection, etc etc... and all anyone can say is.. i told you so

[Pat403]

oh I don't think of it as harsh and I understand all that you have said and that is why I am starting simple. I don't want to be injecting anything yet and I am trying to understand how everything works. But in all honesty I don't plan on being a long time user maybe once every year or two. I have started Dbol and am liking the results and have had no ill side effects what so ever. I have noted posts where people have taken Dbol and var and stated that they were ok with it. I have decided that the test is to much and I'm not interested in using that now, however I would like to go ahead with the var. The profiles provide info on each of the compound although I have yet to hear anyone tell me a concrete reason why not to do it other than I'm inexperienced. As far as I can see I'm there physically, I have the products, I have a solid PCT although I wouldn't mind comments on that and finally if anything went wrong with sides etc... I go to the doc and say hey this is what I was taking, this is what happened what should I do.

[gym_junki]

belive me bro sometimes doctors don't give a good advice, everything can look easy on paper but its totally different when u get advice from someone who had experience with it.
Now ur on d-bol which I have done, var I never touched and I don't kno much about it, but I kno that its liver toxic so are ur d-bols so doing both of these together ur putting a lot of pressure on ur liver.

[Pat403]

Thank you, I appreciate that at least your willing to give some advise. I know there both liver toxic now what I'm really wondering is everyone seems to say run var for 8-12 weeks and that Dbol can be run for at max 8 so I know I will be putting pressure on my liver but I'm wondering if it will be to much keeping my dosage low and only going for 6 weeks on the var. The profile says var is not very toxic and by any means right before I start the var I will get some blood work done specific to the liver

[Pat403]

Hey guys,
I was planning a Dbol only cycle and now I'm about three weeks in and have decided I wanna add some test. Just wondering if it matters that I'm starting the test late? Should I change my PCT from the standard so to speak to something a little more? and can I add any winny or anavar to the cycle?

[blah3d]

That makes no sense.. just run the dbol with the TEST dude.

[HawaiianPride.]

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[Pat403]

Hey guys,
I was planning a Dbol only cycle and now I'm about three weeks in and have decided I wanna add some test. Just wondering if it matters that I'm starting the test late? Should I change my PCT from the standard so to speak to something a little more? and can I add any winny or anavar to the cycle?

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[Pat403]

Age: 26
Weight: 182
Height: 5'6"
BF: 15%ish
I've trained for 5 or 6 years pretty intensively, I just took approx. 5 months off and am back and found I was pretty quick to get back to where I was more or less. The onl reason I was thinking of the winny or var was to mainly to shed some of the poundage. I just wasn't sure if my liver would be to taxed (Var was mainly what I was thinking)

[HawaiianPride.]

Go to AR-R (top of page) they sponsor this site. You will be able to get PCT products from them.

From your impatience, lack of knowledge you really should not be thinking about steroids. You have much learning to do before you go putting these chemicals in your body.

Enough said. Begin PCT, and hit the books.