tell doctor?

[taylormays22]

hi all

im just wondering if anyone tells there doc that there using roids.

it seems like the right thing to do, tell him and have him monitor you, making sure everything is ok, and also have him check the quality of the product.

does anyone do this or will your doc just refuse to help you im very curious to know.

[rj90]

I told my Dr. and he had no idea about steroids with bodybuilding and only knew about TRT doses. But there is no need to, he wont check the quality of the product because he/she has no idea if the are real or fake unless their phrarmacy grade and they still could be wrong by the amount of fake products around. Just use your Dr. to get bloodwork other then that theres plenty of info on this site and experinced users who know alot more the your regular general practitioner.

[gym_junki]

I tell mine when I'm on, he actually asked me the first time if I was taking any anabolics and he guessed right, ever since then we got along really well when I'm on and get a few sides here and there he helps me out tells me yes every thing is ok or take this it will help. Which is a good thing I ask him not to put it on my record and he dosent. But if u ask him
Is 750mg of test e ok he will flip Omg that's toooooo much only 250mg every week and so on lol so when it comes to the dose don't bother.

[cherrydrpepper]

The only reason I would tell my doctor is because shes hot and I have daydreams about her. I'm sure she doesn't know shit about aas so other than trying to impress her with my massive test dick whats the point.

[gym_junki]

Lmao tell her look at my balls I need hcg

[lovbyts]

I tell mine because he prescribes it/Test E for me and checks my blood ever 6 months.

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

I havent told mine since he's been the family doctor for many years.
Though I get on well with my pharmacist and he's pointed a doctor or two that prescribes sust to some of his customers. Im going to visit that doctor next week (in wk 4 atm)

It really depends on your doctor and relationship with him. If you think he'll blab or he's old and your whole family goes to him.. probably best to find a new dr. Otherwise you should be fine. There is Dr Patient confidentiality afterall

[PK-V]

Why not just tell your doc your using some otc prohormones (legal) that way he wont be under pressure in condoning/helping someone use illegally

[taylormays22]

lol i had always dreamed about having a hot doctor, never seems to happen tho. ok well it sounds to me like its ok to do from your answers since my doc is pretty cool, and the funny thing is he might know a few things or two considering he looks like he lifts weights, and he watches ufc.

[Bossman]

My GP doesn't even want me taking protein. He would never support such a thing. I do see a local sport Dr who will give me an occasional cortisone shot, checks my blood, and has taken care of an infection from an injection gone wrong. If you're unsure of your family Dr, that's what I would try to do. Most areas have clinics that specialize in alternative or sports medicine.

[gym_junki]

I wish I can get mine prescribed iv always thought of droping my test levels and going for a blood test, 5shots of prop should do it but iv just been lazy.

[fanatic]

If you're not tying to get prescriptions to aid in your AAS use (if you have low test levels from gear but are trying to act like it's natural), you should definitely tell your doc. Of course he/she will tell you how bad it is and whatnot but, ultimately, they'll help you as much as they can. One thing to keep in mind: Like someone posted earlier, a lot (I'd say most) docs don't know shit about AAS anyway, so you need to have an idea of what you want them to for you (ie hormone levels you'd like them to test). Good luck.

[Bossman]

If you're not tying to get prescriptions to aid in your AAS use (if you have low test levels from gear but are trying to act like it's natural), you should definitely tell your doc. Of course he/she will tell you how bad it is and whatnot but, ultimately, they'll help you as much as they can. One thing to keep in mind: Like someone posted earlier, a lot (I'd say most) docs don't know shit about AAS anyway, so you need to have an idea of what you want them to for you (ie hormone levels you'd like them to test). Good luck.

I really doubt that. They will tell you how bad they are and tell you not to take them. A friend of mine told his DR and asked for help with a PCT. He said "NO, you will recover eventually. That's what you get for taking steroids". Of course, I helped him out with some HCG, Adex and Nolva. After a couple of months, he got his wife pregnant after trying unsuccessfully for over a year. I told him he now has to call me DR.

[gym_junki]

Yeh I kno a lot of them don't kno Much. Yeh I might do it this week 7 ml of prop 100mg eod for 14 days wait 6days and go for the test, test levels should drop, and me using steroids will not show up in the results because they have to specifically look for it.

[AnonEagle]

i once saw this post over at EF and I thought it was a very informative post. basically, it says you definitely SHOULD, for your health's sake, but be careful of the associated risks:

Telling Your Doc, or Not Telling Your Doc?

What one needs to consider in terms of disclosure of AS use to a Doctor, and its possible effects upon your future.


I have seen a few threads/comments about people asking whether or not to tell you Doc that you are ON, or have been ON.

There are some things to consider, and the REAL issue or concern is not really telling the Doc at all.

Your Medical Records Speak for you and your Doctor for Years.

The real issue is not as much whether you tell your Doc, or not ..... the real issue is whether or not any record of your having taken steroids, or having test results which indicate abnormalities which are commonly attributable to steroid use, shows up in your medical records.

The reason the medical records are the real problem, is that most of the time, when getting or changing medical insurance, the records are reviewed to see if they "want" to insure you. (This is a check for the sort of pre-existing-condition issue). If they find something very abnormal or something that is already a problem normally they will reject the new person from coverage.

Now when you talk to your Doc, if they do everything strictly "by the book", then:

… details of the conversation will be placed into your record as part of the information gathering. These are your history, symptoms and descriptions. If you describe symptoms and current conditions (like that fact that you are taking AS) then they will record this in your record. Also,

… if any medical tests are performed, the results are placed into your record as well.

For some Docs, anything you say, anything they do, any test results that come up, are ALL placed in your records - no excuses. They are strictly "by the book". This is the safest for them best in terms of their issues with liability, but it takes them a LOT of time, so many don’t go this far.

Some Docs are more liberal.

How do you find this out?

What kind of Doc do YOU have?

Well, ask your Doc. Ask him flat-out. Ask something like this (seriously).



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I understand that parts of our conversation are recorded by you into my medical record. I also understand that if any tests are performed that in most cases, the results are placed in the record as well. My issue is this - There are times that I would like to discuss things with you that I DO NOT want to be in my record. Now, with all due respect to you and your duties, I was wondering:

If I have a conversation with you, and I express that I do NOT want that conversation to be recorded or referenced in ANY manner in my record, can you honor that?

Also,

If any type of medical tests are performed on me, that may pertain to information that I do not wish to be entered into my records, is it also possible to NOT place those test results in my record? Meaning, is there a way to have tests performed anonymously so that if I have a "private" issue, and that requires that a test be performed, that we can do the test and see the results without them going into my record?
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Now, BOTH of these issues are important to ask your Doc. And here is why.

The first issue is quite obvious. Lets say you tell your Doc that you have certain pains, or your kidneys hurt, or maybe your natural Test does not seem to be recovering, or your balls have shrunk and are taking a long time to get back to size … etc etc etc. And as part of you telling him all of the pertinent facts, you need to tell him that you have taken, or are currently taking, AS. Well, to give you a real diagnosis, and to SAFELY recommend a course of action (and maybe prescribe medicines) then the Doc needs to know that you were (or are) ON.

Well, if you tell him, and he records it, then it’s in your record.

And once there it is very very difficult to get anything removed. Trust me (there was even a Seinfeld episode about this .. LOL).

The second issue is the one most guys overlook. Let’s say you ask your Doc that first question, and he is fine with honoring your request for privacy. Cool. You tell him what’s up, what hurts (or whatever) and you tell him that you are (or were) ON. He understands (disagrees probably with what you did …) but he does not record those details into your records. Cool. You think you are in the clear. …

The Hidden Danger of Test Results

NOW HERE IS WHERE MOST GUYS GET INTO TROUBLE.

So maybe your Doc needs to have some tests performed. He takes blood and/or urine or whatever. He collects the sample, and PLACES YOUR NAME ON IT AND SENDS IT TO A LAB. Then the lab processes it and gets the results, which are presented/recorded with YOUR NAME ON IT. Then these results ARE PLACED INTO YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS.

Once those results are in your records, they are VERY VERY difficult to get out.

Now, if those test results sow terrible liver problems, or sky-high testosterone levels, or very high estrogen levels (for a man …… which may be causing gyno ….. ) etc, or anything else that tends to be "warning signs" that someone IS using AS, then if this goes into your records, its almost as if it says flat-out that you ARE on AS.

See the problem?

You may have a cool Doc, he may honor the fact that you do not want the conversation recorded. Fine, you tell him you are on Test and Fina, No problem. But you have some pains and he wants to run some tests. So he runs them. The tests (among other things ..) happen to show a Testosterone level of like 2500 (way way way way way beyond normal). OK, well, he looks at the results, he says you should be fine (he was worried about something else). You go home think all is cool. And now, your medical records have a history that shows that at SOME point your Testosterone levels were at 2500! Even though the Doc was cool, this is very incriminating data to have in your medical file.

Now, its not a legal problem per se, no one is going to bust you (in terms of like a criminal charge or anything) for having that in your medical record.

But, having that in your record is basically telling people that you DID use AS at some time.

Why could that be a problem?

Because some day, you may need to get new Medical Insurance.

And,

If your Medical Record does show that you had some very strange (attributable to AS) test results in the past, and you then try to get new Medical Coverage, then one of 2 scenarios is very likely:

1 - You get rejected for coverage. When getting new insurance, they will check over your current medical records. If they see anything like this, in some cases, they will NOT insure you.

2 - Maybe you get covered. Fine,. When changing onto new insurance, in many cases you are given a questionnaire where you are suppose to detail what your medical history is. Fine,. So maybe they did not check your Docs file, but they read YOUR statement of your history (you know, those long form where they list like every disease and you are supposed to check whether or not you have had it .. they list a bunch of medical problems …. You list whether or not you have had it , etc.). Now if you lie and say you did NOT ever use AS (I mean, who would admit to this on such a form ….) what can happen is that if you DO get approved to be covered and ever get sick, and if it gets costly, that’s when they will pour over your records. If they see the earlier test results (like the high Test levels) and then they see that on your form, you did NOT admit to this, then the insurance company will say you LIED on your application (true) and then they will have grounds to NOT cover you.

Is getting insurance or not - something that I should be worried about?

Now this may not be a huge problem for many people. If you work for a large corporation with a great group coverage plan, then rejection based on pre-existing conditions is FAR FAR less likely. The insurance company maybe has like 2000 people in that company that they are insuring, and statistically, there IS room for them to deal with a fewer high-risk patients. Plus the fact they the insurer wants the big contract SO bad, means that the chances of being rejected for insurance due to a pre-existing condition are much less if your employer has a LOT of people on the insurance plan. If the employer is small, or if you work for yourself, run a small business, are a consultant, etc etc etc, you are way out of luck - they will reject you in a heartbeat or charge you an astronomical sum.

Many guys will say "no big deal, I work at a big company" … but you never know. Some people DO get rejected regardless of the company (and imagine the insurance company telling your employer WHY). Maybe some day you will want to work for a small company, start a business, become a consultant ... who knows.

Maybe some day you will have a family, and this will really become an issue.

So, what is one to do?

Well, to NOT tell your Doctor, when there may be some critical medical issue that may be caused by - or made worse by AS use, is just dumb. And you may be threatening your health in the process.

A good thing to do is to ask your Doctor those questions I posed above (will he keep stuff private … and can or will he get anonymous test results ..) BEFORE a big problem comes up. Depending upon your answer, you now have information to work with,. Maybe you know that he will be fine with it. Maybe you know that you need to find a new Doc! Maybe you will find (the most common scenario) that he/she will honor a private conversation, but when it comes to test results, he will have to have a name attached to them.

With this knowledge, you will be in better shape to determine how YOU want things to proceed.

I hope this helps.

[cherrydrpepper]

lol i had always dreamed about having a hot doctor, never seems to happen tho. ok well it sounds to me like its ok to do from your answers since my doc is pretty cool, and the funny thing is he might know a few things or two considering he looks like he lifts weights, and he watches ufc.

My roommate saw my doc, came home and said she had her shirt halfway unbuttoned that day. I tried to resist for 2-3 weeks. Finally I had to crack one off.

[PK-V]

nice post eagle

[gixxerboy1]

Yeh I kno a lot of them don't kno Much. Yeh I might do it this week 7 ml of prop 100mg eod for 14 days wait 6days and go for the test, test levels should drop, and me using steroids will not show up in the results because they have to specifically look for it.

why would you want to do that to yourself. Makes no sence. I'm on trt everyone acts like its the greatest thing ever having a script. They right you a script for ass dose. And to buy it at the pharmacy isnt cheap. So nknow what i do? I do my own trt its cheaper and easier